t'oldu Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Stan the Man said today that they have been far worse even than Derby .............reiterated it when queried. They came to PP near the end of our season and we decided to have a giggle and cheered their goals as tho' they were our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I think the difference with us in our season of doom and there's is the level of players and resources ! We were a decent championship team playing in the premier league with no real investment and vision . They've got some so called big names , on big wages that on paper should be doing a lot better , but they have no desire or willingness to try and get there selves out of the rut there in and to me that's a lot lot worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipad1977 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 To back this up they have also got rid of some supposed "underperformers" who weren't cutting the mustard who have invariably gone on to fare well enough, Albrighton being a prime example. The entire club is in a huge rut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 it's what happens when a team sells Weimann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 2 hours ago, RiddingsRam said: I think the difference with us in our season of doom and there's is the level of players and resources ! ..and the fact that the standard of the Premier League is absolutely bloody awful compared to what it was back in 2006/7. The traditional 'big' teams have been atrocious and are seemingly in a state of flux, with Leicester City about to become the champions of all of English football! How the fudge has this come to be? Surely it's all an elaborate joke of some kind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 The stats say they arent as bad as us or Sunderland from 2 seasons before derbys horror show. Even if they lose all their remaining games, their GD will still be better and they will have one more point than Sunderland managed. They also cannot equal ours, and Sunderlands record losses talley of our horror seasons even with a further 5 defeats from 5 games. So its easy to call them the worst team ever.... Id say our own shower was pretty damn diabolic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, Coconut said: ..and the fact that the standard of the Premier League is absolutely bloody awful compared to what it was back in 2006/7. The traditional 'big' teams have been atrocious and are seemingly in a state of flux, with Leicester City about to become the champions of all of English football! How the fudge has this come to be? Surely it's all an elaborate joke of some kind? Not so sure. The level might have evened up, as mid-ranking clubs have better players. I don't think the big clubs get it so easy any more. I'm surprised none of the other top 4 managers have tried to get under their skin a bit like Fergie did routinely (Keegan being the class example). If they'd heaped the pressure on them, been all over the press asking if they've got the minerals to see it out and having a dig, they might have cracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, jagerbob said: The stats say they arent as bad as us or Sunderland from 2 seasons before derbys horror show. Even if they lose all their remaining games, their GD will still be better and they will have one more point than Sunderland managed. They also cannot equal ours, and Sunderlands record losses talley of our horror seasons even with a further 5 defeats from 5 games. So its easy to call them the worst team ever.... Id say our own shower was pretty damn diabolic They've got plenty of Prem games between them though. We had Eddie ******* Lewis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Difference is Villa have been a top flight team since the late 80s Derby were a newly promoted team based around mediocre Champ players. Villa season is far more embrassing than them Derby and Sunderland teams. Also in 2005-09 the PL was a very strong league it dominated the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Stan's a **** and Villa are ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 7 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: Stan's a **** and Villa are ****. No more to be said ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 10 hours ago, CumbrianRam said: Difference is Villa have been a top flight team since the late 80s Derby were a newly promoted team based around mediocre Champ players. Villa season is far more embrassing than them Derby and Sunderland teams. Also in 2005-09 the PL was a very strong league it dominated the Champions League. Keep telling yourself that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, Red_Dawn said: Keep telling yourself that Well its true. But the stats dont really lie either, we were absolute **** for a supposed Premier team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 22 minutes ago, Red_Dawn said: Keep telling yourself that Wasn't this around the time that a former two-time European Cup winner was relegated to the third tier of their domestic league for the first time ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 54 minutes ago, eddie said: Wasn't this around the time that a former two-time European Cup winner was relegated to the third tier of their domestic league for the first time ever? Yes thats why I said we were **** for a Premier team... but not as **** as a League 1 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I wonder what the odds will be on Villa getting relegated next season, too. Always an unpredictable league, they could storm it and go straight back up, but would be worth a punt in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 1 hour ago, eddie said: Wasn't this around the time that a former two-time European Cup winner was relegated to the third tier of their domestic league for the first time ever? Ah, but not uncharted territory for notts forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Jamie Carragher said something similar. He said Villa are worse than us because we were a side of 30-something players who had finished 19th in the Championship the season before. We weren't ready to go up. However Villa have been in the top flight for however long, and individually their side isn't that bad. As a team they're just diabolical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Kernow said: Jamie Carragher said something similar. He said Villa are worse than us because we were a side of 30-something players who had finished 19th in the Championship the season before. We weren't ready to go up. However Villa have been in the top flight for however long, and individually their side isn't that bad. As a team they're just diabolical. Yeah, here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3519714/Aston-Villa-s-players-disgrace-not-sign-them.html Good article tbh, makes good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 We were the worst becuse we did not have good enough players at the club. I doubt we'll ever see some of those records beaten, but in an odd way, I think most of us take pride in what we went through - strengthened our bond. The Villa team however are not a worse football team but they should carry shame because they should be better than this. I'm not particularly fond of Villa, but you have to feel a bit for their fans. I'm still in the amused phase with Newcastle mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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