Posted January 29, 20169 yr Just got back from the match. I thought the lads gave it a good go, we had spells in which we were the better team but overall United controlled and dictated the play. Ultimately their quality shone through. The one thing I have taken away from the game is the difference in quality between the Champsionship and the Premiership. Before tonight I would have said 8 of our players would be able to step up into the premiership but now I'm not so sure. For me, only Carson, Shackell, Thorne & Hughes could make the big step. Am I being too harsh by judging these players against world class opponents or is the gap really that big?
January 29, 20169 yr Depends what you are judging them against, United if you believe all the press are a poor team, however if you look beyond that, you will see a team managed by a world class manager that is currently sitting 5th in the PL and has only lost once to a lower league team in the FA cup for many a year. Add to that the fact that we have a team devoid of confidence, playing in front of supporters who expected us to dominate this game, then it's no surprise that we don't look a top 6 PL side. We were second in every department today, but this is not the benchmark we should be setting ourself against, we need to get out of this league first and a lot of fans seem to have forgot have difficult that can be, and for some reason think we are a PL club already.
January 29, 20169 yr Thought the lads played well tonight, clearly a gulf between us and the Prem but we need to get there before we worry about that, a lot of work to still to do before it even matters who is Prem class.
January 29, 20169 yr Will they have the class to give us all the gate receipts though.... Nah, thought not
January 30, 20169 yr Thorne is a bit of a stretch. Nice goal, but he gives the ball away a lot. His passing is very inconsistent for that level. I think in time Ince will be ready, Hughes as well. The rest, I'm not certain about to be honest. Maybe Carson Shakell and Butterfield. Bent obviously has played there before.
January 30, 20169 yr If you look at the teams of Bournemouth and Norwich I think we could match them now. Say, three good new guys that gel with our current team we could do as well as the before mentioned teams are doing now. That is being above the relegation line.
January 30, 20169 yr 8 minutes ago, Nyderby said: Thorne is a bit of a stretch. Nice goal, but he gives the ball away a lot. His passing is very inconsistent for that level. His 86% pass completion this season thinks otherwise
January 30, 20169 yr I'd say warnock if was a bit younger another decent performance tonite. Thorne didn't look out of place if he was fitter but this is the most games he has played in a season so could be having an effect on him
January 30, 20169 yr Especially in a game that we didn't have time to relax on the ball whatsoever. King George VII showed what a Premiership class player he was tonight with a surging attacking run and clinical finish into the net... from a DM. If I was gay, I'd violate the, George Louis Elliot Thorne, the player for me... der der der der...
January 30, 20169 yr 1 hour ago, Cisse said: If you look at the teams of Bournemouth and Norwich I think we could match them now. Say, three good new guys that gel with our current team we could do as well as the before mentioned teams are doing now. That is being above the relegation line. Right now we are struggling to match Birmingham City and Burnley. I posted an assessment of our first team squad earlier this week. We are in my opinion at least 6 players short of premier league potential. I don't want to judge us on tonight. Manchester United ( LVG witch hunt or not) are a top 6 outfit with a number of world class players. It's a little out of balance to try and estimate if we would be good enough or not playing such a good side. Sure they are not in Scholes, Cantona, Vidic class but they are still very useful.
January 30, 20169 yr Two of our most experianced prem leauge players didnt even make the bench tonight ... weimann and bent I just dont see the logic
January 30, 20169 yr 3 minutes ago, simsdcfc said: Two of our most experianced prem leauge players didnt even make the bench tonight ... weimann and bent I just dont see the logic They're going.
January 30, 20169 yr 8 hours ago, loughboroughRAM said: His 86% pass completion this season thinks otherwise whomever collected those stats is full of it.
January 30, 20169 yr The one worrying thing was making one of the slowest teams in the PL look quick.
January 30, 20169 yr 9 minutes ago, JW37 said: The one worrying thing was making one of the slowest teams in the PL look quick. They are in general, but not the team they put out. Martial, Borthwick-Jackson, Varela and Lingard are all very very quick.
January 30, 20169 yr 10 hours ago, Leeds Ram said: Depends what you are judging them against, United if you believe all the press are a poor team, however if you look beyond that, you will see a team managed by a world class manager that is currently sitting 5th in the PL and has only lost once to a lower league team in the FA cup for many a year. Add to that the fact that we have a team devoid of confidence, playing in front of supporters who expected us to dominate this game, then it's no surprise that we don't look a top 6 PL side. We were second in every department today, but this is not the benchmark we should be setting ourself against, we need to get out of this league first and a lot of fans seem to have forgot have difficult that can be, and for some reason think we are a PL club already. 8 hours ago, I Am Sheep said: Especially in a game that we didn't have time to relax on the ball whatsoever. King George VII showed what a Premiership class player he was tonight with a surging attacking run and clinical finish into the net... from a DM. If I was gay, I'd violate the, George Louis Elliot Thorne, the player for me... der der der der... Only journos trying to sensationalise the season to sell papers argue United are a poor side. Certainly should sell more papers than "this isn't one of the better United sides". For mine, it certainly highlighted the gulf in class between the elite end of the Premiership and the Championship. United always looked to have another gear even when we were matching it with them, But there are two reasons that's the wrong comparison. First, if we go up, we won't be looking to match it with the upper echelon. We will be satisfied if we're no better than the fourth worst side in the Premiership. To do that, no doubt Mel will be digging deep once again and there are some obvious candidates for Championship level players (don't anyone mention Keogh) or Christie). But this time last season, Leicester looked dead and buried and, essentially, one striker hitting the motherlode later, they're still way up there...
January 30, 20169 yr 10 hours ago, harryram said: I'd say warnock if was a bit younger another decent performance tonite. Thorne didn't look out of place if he was fitter but this is the most games he has played in a season so could be having an effect on him Warnock played out his skin. Very good performance from him.
January 30, 20169 yr Worrying about whether we have Premiership quality players is very blinkered given that we are still playing in the Championship, why don't we worry about that fact after we've managed to get promoted
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