TheDeadlySaul Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Jesus christ, you're really a negative bunch. It's Man Utd for gods sake, we may have spent £25m, but they have spent £250m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I wouldn't underestimate our lack of confidence as being a large factor in tonight's performance. Had this game been a month ago I think we'd have pushed them harder, but, we'd probably have still lost. They're a good side. They're a good side in the PL, and they're certainly more than capable of taking Championship sides to the cleaners, whatever form they're in. Move on, not overly bothered about this. Priority is Tuesday's game against Northern Sh1thole FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, SouthernRam said: Peter Schemichel made a very good point in the post match analysis that if we do want to get out the division, we have to be prepared to play some less attractive football. It is sometimes about lumping it over and running onto it. The real difference we're seeing now is between poor form and poor attitude. Chris Martin is doing absolutely **** all. Bradley Johnson looks very average, and if he were to leave, I wouldn't be disappointed. I'm effectively just echoing Warren (above) but things need changing. I personally think selling Martin, and spending the funds on Rhodes or McCormack is what we need to do. We could have Lionel Messi uptop instead of Chris Martin and it won't make any difference. We play like this. 4-3---------------2----------------Half-way line-----Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 26 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: You can always be relied on for a sense of perspective. It does provide some perspective. You think you feel bad, but at least you're not as miserable as Bris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, toddy said: We lacked quality tonight, we sat too deep and the substitutions by Paul made matters worse. I do have concerns that we are leaking goals like a sieve and have become a spent force up front, but my real concern is Paul Clement he looks lost on the touch line when things are not right. Tactically we have gone back a step, I do now think he is under pressure, the Preston is a must win game and a good team performance is required. For crying out loud. Tonight's scorers were Rooney, Mata and Blind. Stick to alien conspiracies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satty atwal Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, North_Stand_Ram said: What was said? Was asked if weimann and bent must be frustrated not playing.... all he said was yes..... but the tone used was worth a thousand words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Canitbé Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I honestly don't think we'd see this kind of negativity on here had we not been on such a poor run of form in the league. I'm looking forward to the Preston game on Tuesday, I think the management team will look at tonight more positively than negatively. I do think Johnson needs dropping though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Jesus christ, you're really a negative bunch. It's Man Utd for gods sake, we may have spent £25m, but they have spent £250m. And £25m should be enough to spend on a couple of players who can pass, move and then pass again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 25 minutes ago, CumbrianRam said: Martin had a very good game, should shut some of the critics up for a few days... But it hasn't, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, toddy said: We lacked quality tonight, we sat too deep and the substitutions by Paul made matters worse. I do have concerns that we are leaking goals like a sieve and have become a spent force up front, but my real concern is Paul Clement he looks lost on the touch line when things are not right. Tactically we have gone back a step, I do now think he is under pressure, the Preston is a must win game and a good team performance is required. Reminds me of Clough in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValeRam Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yet another totally dispiriting and depressing performance. In a game where we had absolutely nothing whatsoever to lose, it beggars belief how negative, clueless, lifeless and static we generally were. I'm not talking about the result - no shame in getting beat by United. It's the whole awfulness of the display, attitude and performance. And this, for about the sixth game in a row. It's clear to me that clement has lost the players - they are showing a total lack of confidence in what he is trying to do. I don't know what the opposite of the Midas touch is, but this guy has got it in spades. How he can manage to reduce at least three quarters of the team to utter shadows of their former selves at the same time is incredible. All of them excellent players on their day. And new signings who look as if they have been signed from the Red Lion sunday reserve team. Looks like Mel has got a big decision on his hands now. And I don't mean if - I mean when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Boro are signing Rhodes, they also want McCormack. We've got chuffin Blackman out wide and Martin trotting around up there with attacking midfielders deep, and defenders (Christie and Keogh) who can't release the ball when it needs releasing. Twenty touches when two or three maximum are needed. So frustrating. Butterfield and Thorne are my positives, they usually are. Class has that effect on me. And Warnock is so underrated. There's me being positive. And yes, it's Man Utd we've played, a top team no matter what the media spin. But come on, I'm talking in general, I'm referring to us the last month or two. We're going nowhere. I am pointing the finger at the manager. It's the wrong shape for me and it's too cautious, safety first. Hendrick should be demanding a move if he can't get in ahead of Johnson. Massive game now, against PNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Jesus christ, you're really a negative bunch. It's Man Utd for gods sake, we may have spent £25m, but they have spent £250m. If you're looking for wrist-slashers then there's loads on Match Chat. Some of the comments are unbelievable, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: For crying out loud. Tonight's scorers were Rooney, Mata and Blind. Stick to alien conspiracies. And whon scored Monday and Saturday week that is 10 in 3 games and that is leaking goals like sieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Clement actually made LVG look like an exponent of free flowing football tonight compared to his turgid tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Didn't we beat Fergies United under Clough? Shows how games like this mean nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Just now, TheDeadlySaul said: Didn't we beat Fergies United under Clough? Shows how games like this mean nowt. David Lowe, not NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymru Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, rynny said: But it hasn't, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, rynny said: But it hasn't, unfortunately. Was only hoping, at least my wrists are fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymru Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I don't give a flying **** this team is lost and need a new direction and PC is not the right direction sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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