Kernow Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 You're presuming that we are going to play the same 4-3-3 formation when we are not. Clement said that we are going to play a variety of different formations so 3 defensive midfielders will be neededYou've just criticised someone for presuming we will play 4-3-3, when you yourself are presuming we won't.Yes Clement has said we'll have different formations, but we've played 4-3-3 for two seasons and it has clearly worked most of the time. We need more flexibility in tough games, but we also need familiarity for the formation to be successful. Clement will have an idea of our preferred formation and then alternative formations for the allusive Plan B, C, whatever. Would be foolish for him not to look at 4-3-3 when it's the one that served us so well other than 2 months of the 20 month McClaren reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Bags of experience for a position which is critical to how we play. Thorne/Baird breaking up play and protecting a back four, with Hughes, Weimann, Bent, Martin et al running riot at the other end. Very good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I still think we will need another defensive mid because I don't think Thorne will play more than 15 games next season if you look at his injury recordThere's nothing really to support the idea of Thorne not playing, he's had two injuries they may be bad ones but it's not like he's getting injured week in week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 We probably get somebody in on loan.Have we even been linked to Bridcutt? Not sure where thats come from?No we haven't linked with that player at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Oh good. A poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 You've just criticised someone for presuming we will play 4-3-3, when you yourself are presuming we won't.Yes Clement has said we'll have different formations, but we've played 4-3-3 for two seasons and it has clearly worked most of the time. We need more flexibility in tough games, but we also need familiarity for the formation to be successful. Clement will have an idea of our preferred formation and then alternative formations for the allusive Plan B, C, whatever. Would be foolish for him not to look at 4-3-3 when it's the one that served us so well other than 2 months of the 20 month McClaren reign.It can be played in different ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteroseram Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 This seems like a very good signing. Experienced cover in CDM as well as defense, could be ideal player for Hanson, Christie, even Thorne to learn more from. Has looked a very good player most of when I've seen him but I must admit the performance that sticks in my mind was at pride park 2007 so not exactly recent!!Like people have said not a massively exiting signing but he's a free transfer in as cover, unless you're Man U or Chelsea or someone you're back up signings aren't supposed to be exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintingstandsatderby Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 This just gets better and better! Really confident going into the new season. Shackell would be the cherry on top now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statham512 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Is it just me or do Warnock and Baird look very similar? both look very sleepy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Very solid signing this. Very good pro, and I know him through contacts and once meeting him to be a top top bloke. He will be perfect in respect of taking up where Eustace left off, and he will be very good helping players like Hanson and Rawson along. Anyone underwhelmed should reserve judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 You're presuming that we are going to play the same 4-3-3 formation when we are not. Clement said that we are going to play a variety of different formations so 3 defensive midfielders will be needed Even if we play different formations, it's very unlikely IMO that we play 2 out and out holding midfielders. If anything, it'll be one with someone like Hughes next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 There's nothing really to support the idea of Thorne not playing, he's had two injuries they may be bad ones but it's not like he's getting injured week in week out. I'm still not convinced. He has only ever played 48 league games in 6 years which is an awful record. No denying his talent but i still think that we should sign another defensive mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Is it just me or do Warnock and Baird look very similar? Warnock looks like the school bully giving you the "I'm going to steal your marbles" look from across the playground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Else Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Can't argue with this signing tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Made 19 Prem appearances last season, he will certainly do a job and cover a few roles. Wonder if this means Shotton's days are numbered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Even if we play different formations, it's very unlikely IMO that we play 2 out and out holding midfielders. If anything, it'll be one with someone like Hughes next to him.I believe the opposite. I think in the physically tough away games and perhaps away games in general we will play Thorne(if fit) + another defensive midfielder to add physicality into the midfield and move Hughes further forward. We will then end up with something like this Thorne Another defensive midInce. Hughes. Weimann MartinNo shame in doing it,Mourinho did it with chelsea as he played mikel +matic as the defensive mids and moved fabregas forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 It showed last season how important real experience is in the middle. It's no surprise why Eustace was so important. We've got a player who is two years younger and with experience at a much higher level than Eustace. Baird has spent most of his career in the PL and he's not a ******* headcase. Could prove to be a very important signing. Experience is invaluable to any side after promotion, of all Billy's signings for us when we went up I thought Big Dave was the most important. We're starting to look very strong indeed. **Baird has spent most of his career in the PL and he's not a ******* headcase - not saying Eustace is a headcase, it was in reference to other options we could have gone for that have been mentioned on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 That Jonathan Baggott is an absolute (Blank).Could be a good signing, just depends on how he fits in/whether he still has legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Made 19 Prem appearances last season, he will certainly do a job and cover a few roles. Wonder if this means Shotton's days are numbered?I can see Shotton going to somewhere like Sheffield Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Chris Baird completes his takeover of the John Eustace parody twitter account with immediate effect.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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