BottrillRAM Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I may be reading way too far into this but, by the looks of his Instagram he might be signing. https://instagram.com/p/2Th2Gplo9P/?taken-by=benty39'Want to say a big thanks to @dcfcofficial and all there fans for there support this season. Loved every minute.Gutted the way it ended. But will make us stronger next season. #rams #keepthefaith' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 He actually said 'nake us stronger'. Definition of NAKEarchaic: to make naked : lay bare : stripRead into this what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 He actually said 'nake us stronger'. Definition of NAKEarchaic: to make naked : lay bare : stripRead into this what you will.hes going to strip us stronger?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 He was on Sky this morning on Fantasy Football and was asked by Paul Merson where he wanted to play next season. Obviously gave a very diplomatic answer but said he would Iove to be at Derby, and he really enjoyed it last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 He was on Sky this morning on Fantasy Football and was asked by Paul Merson where he wanted to play next season. Obviously gave a very diplomatic answer but said he would Iove to be at Derby, and he really enjoyed it last seasonYeh but he also said he'd be looking at offers on their merit... Said he'd want to be going somewhere he'd get games week in week out (which he said he'd had at Derby) and that if a Prem team came in he'd have to think about it...Can we honestly say we'd give him a game every week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statham512 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Maybe not commit to every week but we certainly need a different system for this coming season. 4-3-3 is great with all personel fit but other than that we've square pegs in round holes and the wheels come off spectacularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Maybe not commit to every week but we certainly need a different system for this coming season. 4-3-3 is great with all personel fit but other than that we've square pegs in round holes and the wheels come off spectacularlyAgree with that - also can we possibly change a formation in a match or is 3 changes not enough. We saw some right horrors eg Forest where Bent was brought on wide right as an "impact" sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Maybe not commit to every week but we certainly need a different system for this coming season. 4-3-3 is great with all personel fit but other than that we've square pegs in round holes and the wheels come off spectacularlyAgree with that - also can we possibly change a formation in a match or is 3 changes not enough. We saw some right horrors eg Forest where Bent was brought on wide right as an "impact" sub.Smacca has regularly changed formations mid game... We've played 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2, 4-2-4 and the ever popular "stick as many buggers up top as possible"... Think we've even gone 3 at the back a couple of times...We've also started several games playing 4-2-2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statham512 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Smacca has regularly changed formations mid game... We've played 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2, 4-2-4 and the ever popular "stick as many buggers up top as possible"... Think we've even gone 3 at the back a couple of times...We've also started several games playing 4-2-2-2Yeah I see what you're saying but I think they were all pretty half hearted attempts mostly done out of desperation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Smacca has regularly changed formations mid game... We've played 4-4-2, 4-2-2-2, 4-2-4 and the ever popular "stick as many buggers up top as possible"... Think we've even gone 3 at the back a couple of times...We've also started several games playing 4-2-2-2Aren't they all just the same too, 2 up top with wingers pushing on more. Not exactly 3 different formations, more a variation of 442. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Aren't they all just the same too, 2 up top with wingers pushing on more. Not exactly 3 different formations, more a variation of 442.Yes but they do make a massive difference to the way the team has to play... The further forward your wingers move the move your central 2 have to cover...We've also played 4-2-3-1 at times too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Numbers schmumbers.Leave the Championship Manager game alone for a while, guys. It's football, not bloody netball, and their positions aren't set in stone. Players move to compensate for the moves of other players, both team-mates and opposition - or they should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Numbers schmumbers.Leave the Championship Manager game alone for a while, guys. It's football, not bloody netball, and their positions aren't set in stone. Players move to compensate for the moves of other players, both team-mates and opposition - or they should do.At our best, our players do exactly this. And it works, as the players we have are surprisingly clever (well, apart from Jeff...loveable dumbass). As you say Eddie, this impacts more on performance than the base formation, but if thet don't cover each other, or make the movements to support, formations won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Maybe not commit to every week but we certainly need a different system for this coming season. 4-3-3 is great with all personel fit but other than that we've square pegs in round holes and the wheels come off spectacularlyI wonder if their was an element of luck about discovering the 4-3-3. Wasnt it implemented after Mac's famous Ipswich half time team talk. 'Stick Eustace on, you move over there' and suddenly were rampant. There could have been no chance to practice it, it just clocked. I think since then Mac has been looking for a plan b to click on the same way, and it just isn't. But we have to be adaptable, if that means getting more adaptable players in or whatever. When do you see a premier league math, Chelsea for example, where there isn't copius discussion about the choice of formation and personnel, usually not forced, but tactical. The top clubs are able to do that, they have different donations for different situations, and can change at the start, or during a match as they see fit. We slate Clough for his tactical wizardry of consistently sticking Bucko ok to close out the last 10, but Mac isn't much more inspired, just more wracking, sub the wingers, every match without fail. It's more exciting, but it's not surprising or adaptable.Back to the point, we need Bent, and we need to practice practice practice til we have at least 2 or 3 workable formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I wonder if their was an element of luck about discovering the 4-3-3. Wasnt it implemented after Mac's famous Ipswich half time team talk. 'Stick Eustace on, you move over there' and suddenly were rampant. There could have been no chance to practice it, it just clocked. I think since then Mac has been looking for a plan b to click on the same way, and it just isn't. But we have to be adaptable, if that means getting more adaptable players in or whatever. When do you see a premier league math, Chelsea for example, where there isn't copius discussion about the choice of formation and personnel, usually not forced, but tactical. The top clubs are able to do that, they have different donations for different situations, and can change at the start, or during a match as they see fit. We slate Clough for his tactical wizardry of consistently sticking Bucko ok to close out the last 10, but Mac isn't much more inspired, just more wracking, sub the wingers, every match without fail. It's more exciting, but it's not surprising or adaptable.Back to the point, we need Bent, and we need to practice practice practice til we have at least 2 or 3 workable formations. The reason some go on about choice of formation in the Premier League is that there are more people talking about it, wanting to get their say in. The simple point is that most of the time they're playing roughly the same system, but 'such and such' is playing deeper, or making 'league top scorer' and so forth. If you're playing 4-3-3, but the deep man is given time and space, and one of the midfielders is given freedom to join the striker, it is in effect a 4-4-2 or 4-2-4 (which only differ on how the wingers are operating). Take us for example. We could line up as:GK: GrantDR: ChristieDL: ForsythDC: KeoghDC: BuxtonDM: EustaceMC: HendrickMC: HughesRW: InceLW: RussellST: MartinOver a number of games. Let's say 2 home, and 2 away. For the first game at home, Eustace is very much between the defence and midfield, the fullbacks have pushed up, and Hughes and the side is playing pretty much as you'd expect for that formation. People will call it 4-3-3 or 4-1-2-3 or whatever they want. Say our next game is away. We're under more pressure, Eustace is pretty much between Buxton and Keogh, they've defended well out wide and we go more narrow, while Ince is operating basically on top of the box, with the width provided by Forsyth and Christie. Suddenly you could call that a 3-4-3, 3-2-2-3, 5-2-1-2, Robert, or any other name you really want. In effect they're playing as:GK: GrantDC: KeoghDC: EustaceDC: BuxtonRWB: ChristieLWB: ForsythMC: HughesMC: HendrickAMC: InceST: RussellST: MartinWe play our next game at home, Eustace is given more freedom, the defence is basically untroubled and they've set up to defend. Now it's Hughes in the space at the top of the box, Eustace and Hendrick are effectively together in midfield, and some might call that 4-2-4, or a 4-2-1-3 etc. Finally we're playing away again. This time we're the ones under even more pressure. Eustace is still more in midfield shielding the defence, and Ince and Russell are effectively playing in the midfield. It's a good ol' Fashion 4-5-1 or 4-1-4-1 depending on how you want to name it. Basically, they're all the same players, it's all the same set up and structure in effect, but the way the players operate on the day to tackle conditions can be named in a myriad of different ways. The keys to tactics isn't which numbers the pundits feel like calling out "IT'S A 7-2-1 FORMATION, WHAT A SHOCKER", it's about how they go about playing the game, and adapting in this conditions. I don't actually think we adapted that badly. The biggest issue we faced this season is that we lacked options at key times to protect the back 4. Christie and Forsyth are attacking fullbacks, when you're playing 2 quite attacking fullbacks, and lack a Eustace or Thorne in midfield to deal with the pressure, you are going to concede cheap goals here and there. From there it was a confidence issue.As far as I'm concerned, what we need for this off season is another genuine defensive midfielder along side Eustace and Thorne to give us a bit more depth there, because we can lose any number of players, but we can't lose both of them at once again. Omar could do the attacking side of the role, but not that crucial defensive side, while other options like Hughes and Hendrick also suffered from that there. It'll be interesting to see what happens this off season in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Abu Derby Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The Sun report that we're close to getting him for £4m. I thought he was out of contract - unless that would be his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhey90 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 £4m? wtf? he is a free agent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statham512 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 £4m? wtf? he is a free agent...Ive just read this yeah wtf out of contract means a freebie. Can't see us paying him 4 mill although financial fair play rules have altered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 £4m over 4 seasons, 19k pw maybe? 4 year deal was mentioned before somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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