Bris Vegas Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 6 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Is the monumental comeback story not enough? As a very casual boxing fan, I remember that more than who's won which belts. Maybe. Boxing is strange though, people seem to forget things and brush them under the carpet like they didn’t happen, like both Canelo and Fury failing drugs tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 9 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Is the monumental comeback story not enough? As a very casual boxing fan, I remember that more than who's won which belts. It was, but really when looking back at the sport, is that what people will remember about Fury? I would imagine it would be more the fights against Wilder, but he is lacking in iconic wins really. The Klitschko fight, whilst was massively important, was far from a classic. Other than that, most of his wins aren't too much of a spectacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Andicis said: It was, but really when looking back at the sport, is that what people will remember about Fury? I would imagine it would be more the fights against Wilder, but he is lacking in iconic wins really. The Klitschko fight, whilst was massively important, was far from a classic. Other than that, most of his wins aren't too much of a spectacle. Does it matter? He is head and shoulders above any other heavy weight…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Does it matter? He is head and shoulders above any other heavy weight…. When talking about the best heavyweights of all time, yes. How do you know he's head and shoulders above? He's not fought Usyk, he's not fought Joshua. It damages his legacy if he doesn't fight at least one, if not both of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Does it matter? He is head and shoulders above any other heavy weight…. He can only prove that by beating the next best, surely? Fury is very good at convincing people of his own achievements. He blabbered on about being the lineal champion when literally nobody in modern boxing ever talks about such a title. He also adamantly claims Wilder is the next best in the division and the latest being how he has won every belt and so has nothing left to prove. If Usyk beats AJ again then he holds three belts and is undefeated. He will have beaten the man (twice) who also beat Vlad. So what else does Fury have on him? His wins over Wilder? Most would argue AJ is better than Wilder. Fury will have to do more to cement his legacy as the best of his era. Andicis, Comrade 86, Norman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: He can only prove that by beating the next best, surely? Fury is very good at convincing people of his own achievements. He blabbered on about being the lineal champion when literally nobody in modern boxing ever talks about such a title. He also adamantly claims Wilder is the next best in the division and the latest being how he has won every belt and so has nothing left to prove. If Usyk beats AJ again then he holds three belts and is undefeated. He will have beaten the man (twice) who also beat Vlad. So what else does Fury have on him? His wins over Wilder? Most would argue AJ is better than Wilder. Fury will have to do more to cement his legacy as the best of his era. I wouldn't. Wilders a knockout machine, if ponderous. I still can't believe Fury got up in that first fight as that shot would have rendered most others comatose and then he should have comfortably won on the cards. Joshua to me seems to me to have very little balls in the face of ring adversity and even lost to Andy Ruiz who looked like he'd spent the previous evening at a night club on the shots, smoking 50 B & H, followed by the full Monty at McTurks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I wouldn't. Wilders a knockout machine, if ponderous. I still can't believe Fury got up in that first fight as that shot would have rendered most others comatose and then he should have comfortably won on the cards. Joshua to me seems to me to have very little balls in the face of ring adversity and even lost to Andy Ruiz who looked like he'd spent the previous evening at a night club on the shots, smoking 50 B & H, followed by the full Monty at McTurks. Wilder can’t take a shot, judged by his struggles against Fury who I wouldn’t class as a big power puncher. His defence is poor and he has no ring craft. I think AJ is a far better boxer than Wilder and has the power to knock him out too. Sure that doesn’t mean if Wilder lands one flush he can’t knock out AJ, but of the two, AJ certainly has more in his locker overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: He can only prove that by beating the next best, surely? Fury is very good at convincing people of his own achievements. He blabbered on about being the lineal champion when literally nobody in modern boxing ever talks about such a title. He also adamantly claims Wilder is the next best in the division and the latest being how he has won every belt and so has nothing left to prove. If Usyk beats AJ again then he holds three belts and is undefeated. He will have beaten the man (twice) who also beat Vlad. So what else does Fury have on him? His wins over Wilder? Most would argue AJ is better than Wilder. Fury will have to do more to cement his legacy as the best of his era. Fury would beat AJ, perhaps he will be tempted and prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Fury would beat AJ, perhaps he will be tempted and prove it. If it’s an easy fight for him as he claims he would be stupid not to as it’s the biggest fight in boxing. Both would net at least £50m each from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: If it’s an easy fight for him as he claims he would be stupid not to as it’s the biggest fight in boxing. Both would net at least £50m each from it. Maybe he will but he’s said he’s done with boxing, unbeaten and nothing to prove… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Interesting to see how this goes. Bivol started very strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Plenty of bias going on in the commentary. Canelo getting battered but I'm guessing we're trying to stick with the script. Canelo chin going to be tested like never before I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 This commentary from America is a joke and unless the fight changes dramatically then this is more dominant over Canelo than the 1st GGG fight. They're even denying it in the face of stats showing Canelo is just getting battered in these 8 rounds. I given Canelo 2 close rounds in 8 and he's looking hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Alpha said: This commentary from America is a joke and unless the fight changes dramatically then this is more dominant over Canelo than the 1st GGG fight. They're even denying it in the face of stats showing Canelo is just getting battered in these 8 rounds. I given Canelo 2 close rounds in 8 and he's looking hurt DAZN official site has round by round scoring with Canelo ahead. Lol. Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 115 - 113 to Bivol. That must have killed them. Find me 4 rounds for Canelo! Find 3? I mean I gave him 1 clearly and 1 close one. Utter dominance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Just now, Alpha said: 115 - 113 to Bivol. That must have killed them. Find me 4 rounds for Canelo! Find 3? I mean I gave him 1 clearly and 1 close one. Utter dominance Shady scoring once again, but ultimately a UD was the right call. Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: DAZN official site has round by round scoring with Canelo ahead. Lol. They should ask them which rounds. Talk us through it. He got battered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Alpha said: They should ask them which rounds. Talk us through it. He got battered. They scored it 114-114 at the end. Clear bias. Canelo deserves respect for fighting a champion in a higher weight category. People like Carl Froch saying he would be too big for him. Froch stayed at 168 his entire career whereas Canelo and Andre Ward risked far more. Bivol looks like he could dominate 175 for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alph Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Shaun Porter had Canelo 3-2 up. And then said it will be different in rematch because Canelo got it tactically wrong Some other American pundit (all annoying!!) said it could be the Vegan diet without any sense of irony!! I think it simply demonstrated why their are weight divisions. Fair play to Canelo he'll go down as an all time great. Still nobody can beat him below light heavy Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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