Thorne Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Shaky win. Highlights our defence. Letting in soft goals and not concentrating. Shows why need either a settled back four or even better another centre back that is a similar quality to Keogh. Cover for Forsyth please too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 And the clean sheet record is becoming slightly irrelevant now to the fact we've conceded 8 n four games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 And the clean sheet record is becoming slightly irrelevant now to the fact we've conceded 8 n four games. I think, if you wait a few minutes, a few posters will come on to blame Buxton for both goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbydave96 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I do think we need to improve defensively come january, but I don't think you can blame the current leaks on a specific player. Since the run of clean sheets, grant has got injured, and butland who isn't as commanding and as good an organiser as grant, aswell as his poor distribution has come in. Forsyths been bang out of form, with noone to replace him. Whitbreads got injured, and the centre backs keep changing. I'm not a big whitbread fan, but he startef to look settled and was doing a job. And finally, mascarell has started playing, who isn't as good defensively as eustace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 We need the German CB. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 We need the German CB. -_- Ha...he's too busy reading Mein Kampf right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Do you ever stop complaining? We won, let McClaren work on improving the defence and enjoy the fact we got 3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 I do think we need to improve defensively come january, but I don't think you can blame the current leaks on a specific player. Since the run of clean sheets, grant has got injured, and butland who isn't as commanding and as good an organiser as grant, aswell as his poor distribution has come in. Forsyths been bang out of form, with noone to replace him. Whitbreads got injured, and the centre backs keep changing. I'm not a big whitbread fan, but he startef to look settled and was doing a job. And finally, mascarell has started playing, who isn't as good defensively as eustace. I'm not blaming it on a specific failure, it's down to a number of factors: Whitbread is average and plays negatively Buxtons injury Shotton looks good but not been given a clear run of games Forsyth is put of form Lack of concentration Lack of a settled back four Keogh has been our best defender. Christie is very good but not as defensibly capable as Wisdom If we get a settled back four then we should improve but we have n cover for Forsyth and I'd still like to see a v good centre back come in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Do you ever stop complaining? We won, let McClaren work on improving the defence and enjoy the fact we got 3 points Spot on mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Do you ever stop complaining? We won, let McClaren work on improving the defence and enjoy the fact we got 3 points I want us to do well, I want what's best for team and good for club. I'm happy to give credit where it's due, and criticise where it's needed. A win is a win but it wasn't convincing. Our defence to put it bluntly isn't in form and is conceding not just too many goals but unnecessary goals that are simple defending, as Ramage said tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBE Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 We looked weak at the back and between them Shotton and Keogh looked all at sea. You have to play Bucko and Keogh it is tried and tested, they play well together. Yes we can all look for better but bar signing a major international European defender stick with them two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 We need to go for Otto van Cleansheet, plays for FC Rosenborg and is available from around 300k. The commanding CB we've wanted for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Why would you drop the Shotton/Keogh partnership after a win? We've swapped and changed too much, whether it be the keepers or the defensive side. Where's the consistency? Sure Butland couldn't play in the cup, but the defence (particually Keogh) doesn't know whos coming or going. Grant get injured, Butland joins, all of a sudden Roos is playing, then back to Butland. Buxton one week, Shotton the next. Then Whitbread, then Buxton... Eustace plays, then is dropped for Massarell Shotton returns all of a sudden after illness and Buxton is dropped.. Keep a settle defence, Buxton isn't the answer. He wouldn't have coped with Wells tonight anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Hopefully, in the coming weeks the defence will settle down. i would imagine Buxton will start alongside Keogh, Forsyth and Christie. Once Grant returns from injury we will start to settle down again and hopefully get a few more clean sheets and get confidence back up again. The main thing today though was the win and 3 points. That will do no end of good for the morale of the team and keeps us fighting for that top spot despite how early in the season we are. In Mac We Trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 We'll be fine once Butland and Shotton get used to the transformation from Rugby Football to Association Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Rather have a strong attack than a strong defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 We have one of the best defences in the league. I would persevere with Shotton. Butland is a good shot stopper. Grant has grown enormously under Eric and we miss his distribution. I hate this talk of soft goals. I expect most of our goals are perceived as "soft" by the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamFan13 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 The defense obviously isn't going to be as good without Grant, but still that's football, we're not going to get a clean sheet every single match; it's the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I am confident we will work out the defensive kinks we have. 1 point off the top. #inmacitrust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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