LeedsCityRam Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 If we had an anthem that celebrated the good stuff about this country, I could but into it. Too many anthems are too martial and too triumphalist. Flower of Scotland celebrates battles 600 years ago, relevant only because it was against the English (as if mediaeval disputes amongst warring families somehow speak for Scotland in the 21st century). Likewise god save the queen. So many people don't believe in God, many don't believe a monarch is right. It's outdated, anachronistic. I won't have it in the house. I see what you mean but I think it would be a real struggle creating a new anthem for this country simply because most folk would disagree about exactly what is good about this country. For instance, people of a left wing persuasion would point to the NHS, multi-culturalism & social liberalism. By contrast, people of a conservative viewpoint (small "c") would be horrified by the mere notion & rightly or wrongly that section of the population is probably still the largest in England. As for Flower of Scotland, well I would entirely agree & I wouldn't see it changing even if they did secure independence. For all Salmond's rhetoric about "little Englanders" and wanting a progressive society in Scotland, he's happy to be as nationalistic as anyone when it suits him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 The Dutch one sounds like 'Little Town of Bethlehem' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I see what you mean but I think it would be a real struggle creating a new anthem for this country simply because most folk would disagree about exactly what is good about this country. For instance, people of a left wing persuasion would point to the NHS, multi-culturalism & social liberalism. By contrast, people of a conservative viewpoint (small "c") would be horrified by the mere notion & rightly or wrongly that section of the population is probably still the largest in England. As for Flower of Scotland, well I would entirely agree & I wouldn't see it changing even if they did secure independence. For all Salmond's rhetoric about "little Englanders" and wanting a progressive society in Scotland, he's happy to be as nationalistic as anyone when it suits him. How about one without words? Spain do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 How about one without words? Spain do it. Good idea - I'd not considered that. I particularly like the tune of Uruguay's anthem, no idea why they ruin it by singing through it (although the words are totally over-shadowed). And considering I've not seen an England starting XI as a whole lustily sing the national anthem in about 20 odd years, it might be a win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Given the 'abilities' of various footballers in the singing department, anything that stops them from singing has to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 God Save The Queen is a terribly boring anthem. I concur. I think we should put words to the theme from The Archers, it's very jolly. Actually, we could do worse than adopt that as our "Delilah" Needs a bit of editing mind but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'll probably get hammered for this BUT..............The Flower Of Scotland sounds incredible when they're in full voice in a full stadium. Spot on great anthem... Land of hope and glory for us please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 I think 'Jerusalem' Is much better than 'Land of hope and glory' sound better in a chant and it you get into it faster. Just look at our Crickets Barmy army sounded great down under a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Isn't Jerusalem the actual English anthem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Isn't Jerusalem the actual English anthem? I think its the de jure anthem of England rather than the de facto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Fat Les sang Jerusalem as our official song of Euro 2000. Surely that shows that the FA recognise the significance of it as a proud song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 How about one without words? Spain do it. I vote for the theme tune from The Archers. Or failing that we could just nick Italy's, great tune that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale The Ram Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Best one is seeing Buffon belting out Fratelli d`Italia!!! That is Passion! Wish we had Jerusalem but if we did, still 65% wouldn't know the words or sing it and I doubt the players will either. Maybe if in schools in England you have to raise the Flag of St.George whilst singing the national anthem (GSTQ or Jerusalem) we can actually get some pride back into this country!!! Take a leaf out of the yanks books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Italy's, France's, Germany's, Russia's and Argentina's all great. GSTQ is absolute poo when we could have Jerusalem or even I vow to thee my country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I'm vetoing Jeruselem. No good for us non Christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I want All Things Bright and Beautiful. We all know the words to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 The Dutch one sounds like 'Little Town of Bethlehem' I always thought that it sounded like "A Partridge in a Pear Tree" - but that's probably because I've just been reading the Chris Eagles thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I want All Things Bright and Beautiful. We all know the words to that. We used to sing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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