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Bournemouth last week, Blackpool first penalty.....

 

What was the horrific decision against Bournemouth last week?

 

Blackpool's first goal in that game came from a ridiculously soft free-kick, and our penalty had no bearing on the game as we would have won anyway (though it was soft)

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Mac: It's a penalty. Not dived, not looked for the penalty. It's a penalty. Decision was huge. The ref has a difficult job, but got it wrong, the penalty decision and the booking. Unbelievable second half, plenty of belief. Looked like 12 men, not 10. Credit to the team, and to the fans. Take heart from the game. It's all about staying in the playoffs. We're the real deal. Second half with 10 men we were fantastic, with 11 men we would have won. The sending off spoiled the game. It's a shame, we knew they'd be good, but it wasn't to be. Some poor decisions and a particular injustice. Bryson only trained one day risk to start him. Knew all the subs could come on and make a difference. It's all about collecting enough points to stay in the playoffs.

and to be fair that level of expectation is realistic.

 

But I bet SM is saying in the dressing room. - we can get second!

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Referees are always saying they dont deserve the stick they get, they're gonna get stick for making howlers like that 

 

As the great Ron Atkinson said "I NEVER criticise referees, and I'm making no exception for that prat!'

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What was the horrific decision against Bournemouth last week?

Blackpool's first goal in that game came from a ridiculously soft free-kick, and our penalty had no bearing on the game as we would have won anyway (though it was soft)

the free kick. He got the ball, will say that Hughes was fouled earlier but played on
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So that one evened itself out then.....

maybe. Point I'm trying to make what goes round comes round. It's actually refreshing to hear a manager not blame the decisions. Unlike some very shortsighted managers who blame refs to hide there own shortcomings.

Reason why I defend refs is that I was one once. And got to a fairly decent standard but had to give up because of work.

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Burnley were a decent side, still won the second half as well despite a good go by Derby.

 

11 vs 11 they may have still been too strong...the shame is we now don't know and have to pick ourselves up from the floor. Its gutting to be on the end of that.

 

This was a huge match and we've lost. This is a massive 3 points for Burnley. I hope this perceived injustice, anger and hurt is well-channelled and we hunt The Clarets down relentlessly from hereon in.

 

PS. Just looked at the match stats - proud of the boys today. Dominated possession despite so long with 10 men and created a few "half-chances" to boot in that second period. Lots of positives to take away.

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Also should've had a first half pen vs Bournemouth.

 

What really annoys me about this though is that he's clearly booked him for a dive based on reputation. What was different about the Bamford and Barnes incidents late on (when they've actually appealed for a penalty lets not forget) that meant they didn't get booked? Completely ridiculous.

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maybe. Point I'm trying to make what goes round comes round. It's actually refreshing to hear a manager not blame the decisions. Unlike some very shortsighted managers who blame refs to hide there own shortcomings.

Reason why I defend refs is that I was one once. And got to a fairly decent standard but had to give up because of work.

 

Ordinarily I might agree, they have a hard job, but he made 3 bad calls in the same passage of play. I can't remember the last time that ever happened, for us or against us. Even tvvatwell didn't manage that.

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Ordinarily I might agree, they have a hard job, but he made 3 bad calls in the same passage of play. I can't remember the last time that ever happened, for us or against us. Even tvvatwell didn't manage that.

like someone mentioned on the match thread, maybe I'm a bit hasty defending him so quick after the match when people want to vent and let off there opinions. Probably should have left it a day. I've opened up notification hell on here! :)
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To show how refs can influence a game. Some would have paused and given the goal never mind the penalty. Seen it replaid on stream. it was a definite pen.

 

However, we have to move on and a BREAK FOR mARTIN TO REFLECT AND GIVE THE FISH A START MAY NOT BE A BAD THING.

 

Six points in next 2 home games are very achievable and we could be back within a win of Burnley with 10 to go. This is far from over.

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There's two arguments you could make as to why it was a freekick on Hughes; the follow throug and the cumulative fouls beforehand.

personally for me, thought it was very harsh. Imagine being a Burnley fan, I imagine there thinking Martin deserved to get sent off today. Like I say what goes around comes around, unfortunately not many managers don't seem to grasp that. Only the negatives. Fair play to Mac he brushed it aside.
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like someone mentioned on the match thread, maybe I'm a bit hasty defending him so quick after the match when people want to vent and let off there opinions. Probably should have left it a day. I've opened up notification hell on here! :)

 

I fully understand that referees have hard jobs...

 

But that decision was one of those where he is either going to be a hero (if he called it right) or shot to pieces (if he called it wrong)

 

He's deservedly getting shot to pieces because he got it wrong.

 

I just cannot understand his decision making. He blatantly did it because it was Martin - he never booked Bamford so why did he book Martin? His agenda against him was obvious from the start when he never awarded him a freekick for being clattered.

 

Personal feelings should be left out. His decision wasn't a professional one, it was blatantly personal against Martin.

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Never in my life have I seen such a poor ref !! Makes me so angry a massive game runied by a ***** ref but there's still a long way to go!! Heads up and keep pushing! Didn't think burnley were that good just strong in defence! Didn't like shackell pushing Bamford either!

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Bournemouth last week, Blackpool first penalty.....

Bournemouth was a free kick. Blackpool was a dive by Martin, but he was fouled just made a  meal of it.  I dont think anything can even out getting 3 decisions wrong in a single incident.

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Look to be fair, refs make mistakes. We've been on the end of some decent decisions this season already. As I said earlier what goes round comes around.Players make mistakes too......

Having a coffee at Burnley cricket club before heading back to Blackpool. Proud to be a Derby fan. Referee left the pitch under an escort. Should have been under a Challenger tank.

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the free kick. He got the ball, will say that Hughes was fouled earlier but played on

He got the ball by fouling Hughes.

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I fully understand that referees have hard jobs...

But that decision was one of those where he is either going to be a hero (if he called it right) or shot to pieces (if he called it wrong)

He's deservedly getting shot to pieces because he got it wrong.

I just cannot understand his decision making. He blatantly did it because it was Martin - he never booked Bamford so why did he book Martin? His agenda against him was obvious from the start when he never awarded him a freekick for being clattered.

Personal feelings should be left out. His decision wasn't a professional one, it was blatantly personal against Martin.

sorry will have to disagree, thought he made a honest judgement. Think he will see he got it wrong when he does ever see it again. Just my opinion
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