So, we're looking to employ new staff....

[Duracell]

Heard on the radio today some toffee nosed student saying that he has deliberately turned down job offers working for supermarkets as he deems that he didnt go to Uni to waste that time and expense whilst studying for his degree... only shame was I forgot his name as was intending to shop him to the DHSS.....the bigger querstion was why are there so many young people unemployed and the one of the answers was a proportion of them are refusing to work in menial or low paid jobs...I had 4 temps working for me last week, 2 of them left site on first day as said didnt not like work, it was sweeping up and cleaning, am still gobsmacked..... 

I'm studying for my degree now and without wishing to sound arrogant, I think I'm rather good at it. It's a decent Uni and I think I'll get a decent grade.

 

But having said that, I don't think any job is beneath me. If I come out of Uni and can't get a job with my degree, that's my problem. I'm doing my degree because I want to learn and be a more rounded individual...I don't expect a queue of employers with company cars and a massive pay packet lining up outside the graduation hall.

 

I'll take what I can get - even stacking shelves. If you're bright enough to get a decent degree, you'll be bright enough to rise to the top anyway.

 

Tell you what though, I am definitely in a minority with this sort of mentality.

[Srg]

I think jobs are beneath me. Damn right I do. I work hard at what I do and have a degree to back me up, so you can forget thinking I would lower myself to working as a cleaner or bin man. Yes it's snobby, but hard work gives you that right.

Obviously, I did work throughout uni in a hotel, so I am talking just extremes here.

[Duracell]

I think jobs are beneath me. Damn right I do. I work hard at what I do and have a degree to back me up, so you can forget thinking I would lower myself to working as a cleaner or bin man. Yes it's snobby, but hard work gives you that right.

Obviously, I did work throughout uni in a hotel, so I am talking just extremes here.

Yes but surely you'd take a job as a cleaner over a not working at all?

[uttoxram75]

That is usually my philosophy.

 

But your Mums friend having a husband who is employing, with you as one of the only applicants helps.

 

 

Which you wouldn't have been considered for if you were a useless sack of ****

Being a useless sack of **** didn't stop David Cameron. His parents got him a "researchers" job at Tory HQ through their contacts........

 

You'd have thought with his priveleged upbringing and expensive private education he wouldn't need help.

[ladyram]

Ahem. And what's wrong with cleaners?

I'm one and work bloody hard too I might add, in a lot of cases a lot harder than pen pushers. Why do others always put people like me down? What, do they think they're somehow better than me or that I'm beneath them? I don't think so.

I feel insulted now srg.

[Duracell]

Ahem. And what's wrong with cleaners?

I'm one and work bloody hard too I might add, in a lot of cases a lot harder than pen pushers. Why do others always put people like me down? What, do they think they're somehow better than me or that I'm beneath them? I don't think so.

I feel insulted now srg.

A lot of people seem to believe there's a sliding scale between hard work and income. And hard work and intelligence.

[Boycie]

Some uni degrees are worth fook all.

Fact!

[davenportram]

I think jobs are beneath me. Damn right I do. I work hard at what I do and have a degree to back me up, so you can forget thinking I would lower myself to working as a cleaner or bin man. Yes it's snobby, but hard work gives you that right.

Obviously, I did work throughout uni in a hotel, so I am talking just extremes here.

And here lies a problem created by the 'everyone should go to Uni' mantra of the late 90's early 00's

Too many people have been told, and believe that, a degree means you start at the perceived top, or at least half way up.

There are that many people with degrees they are devalued, and there are not enough 'graduate' jobs to go round.

There are also not enough people willing to do certain jobs - the reason we have so many migrant workers.

I got my degree in 1999, and worked as a security guard, in a call centre amongst other jobs. I'd rather do any Job than sign on.

Working hard at Uni does not give the right to choose not to work. Yes you can aim for a certain career but the welfare state is there for people who cannot work or lose their jobs until they find another one. It is not there to provide support for graduates who choose not to work in jobs they consider beneath them.

It is also true that it is easier to find a job when you have one, even if its in a different employment sector. If you spend 12 months unemployed waiting for that perfect job you can become undesirable to any employer.

[AndyinLiverpool]

Heard on the radio today some toffee nosed student saying that he has deliberately turned down job offers working for supermarkets as he deems that he didnt go to Uni to waste that time and expense whilst studying for his degree... only shame was I forgot his name as was intending to shop him to the DHSS.....the bigger querstion was why are there so many young people unemployed and the one of the answers was a proportion of them are refusing to work in menial or low paid jobs...I had 4 temps working for me last week, 2 of them left site on first day as said didnt not like work, it was sweeping up and cleaning, am still gobsmacked.....

I heard that too. I don't think he realises that he is severely jeopardising his chances. As someone who does a lot of hiring, I am more impressed with people who have made an effort to do something than those who seem to have done nothing. Gaps in a CV might mean it going straight in the bin.

[derbydan]

Bit of advice for anyone looking to recruit for their business - Use as much online exposure as possible Facebook is a good place to start as its free, the job centre I believe is also free?, plus websites linke indeed, work circle ect failing that job boards do work Gumtree is cheap like £9 or something I think atm but there are more specialised boards too which obviously cost more money just depends on what kind of person you are looking for really??

 

On the job seeker side similar thing really essentially whore yourselves out on as many job boards as possible people will find your CV & if its good then I'm sure you will get the call. I'd also set yourself up a profile on a site called linked in its a social media platform for professionals perfect for meeting new contacts within your field & often leads to job opportunities 

 

For graduates I'd suggest signing up with companies like Milkround, graduate fasttrack, spencer harrington, Raw talent academy ect ect 

 

As for you Daveo I'd have gone with the last one the profile pic looked good! 

[GeneralRam]

Being a useless sack of **** didn't stop David Cameron. His parents got him a "researchers" job at Tory HQ through their contacts........

 

You'd have thought with his priveleged upbringing and expensive private education he wouldn't need help.

 

And thus we come back to ye olde saying - "It's not what you know, it's who you know." - It's the way of the world. Always has been always will. I am not going to slag someone off because they've used the resources available to them.

[abertawe_ram]

Thanks a lot for all of the tips and the kind words, really appreciate it. Only just managed to get back and check the replies as my laptop stopped working last night. It's really not good timing as the job description and person spec were saved on my laptop and I'd like to study them a bit more, not to mention it's a ball-ache having to borrow a computer to do any kind of research/check emails/etc. Hopefully I can get it repaired quickly and won't lose anything.

Borneo, your offer to help me prepare over the phone was really great but unfortunately I've had a pretty busy morning.

What a cracking bunch on this forum, I knew our fans were the best 

 

[abertawe_ram]

One more quick thought, regarding clothes, something I know FA about.
Obviously for the charity office interview I'll get my suit on with a shirt and tie but for the pub interview (it's a scream pub/bar, so not a smart or classy affair) what do people reckon? Could I get away with a shirt and a smart pair of jeans? I think a suit might look a little ridiculous when going for just a bar staff role

[PrivateDerby]

Id still say trousers or smart jeans. open shirt and shoes at the least, they'll appreciate it.

Best of luck mate!

[Srg]

One more quick thought, regarding clothes, something I know FA about.

Obviously for the charity office interview I'll get my suit on with a shirt and tie but for the pub interview (it's a scream pub/bar, so not a smart or classy affair) what do people reckon? Could I get away with a shirt and a smart pair of jeans? I think a suit might look a little ridiculous when going for just a bar staff role

 

Always better to overdress.

[AndyinLiverpool]

One more quick thought, regarding clothes, something I know FA about.

Obviously for the charity office interview I'll get my suit on with a shirt and tie but for the pub interview (it's a scream pub/bar, so not a smart or classy affair) what do people reckon? Could I get away with a shirt and a smart pair of jeans? I think a suit might look a little ridiculous when going for just a bar staff role

I would advise against thinking in terms of what you 'can get away with'. Make an effort and make it look like you've made an effort. 

 

If someone comes for an interview with me in jeans, no matter how smart, it creates the impression in my mind that they can't be bothered. And if they can't be bothered with something as simple as clothing, what else can't they be bothered with? Getting up in the morning? Being polite? Caring about the work they do? 

 

Don't recall ever hiring a person who turned up in jeans.

[ladyram]

Smart, always go smart and don't forget your tie. I don't think I've ever seen Sam Rush without a tie on, even when doing q&a's in a pub. I like smart.

[mozza]

Don't recall ever hiring a person who turned up in jeans.

 

 

that's me out , then..

[rynny]

One more quick thought, regarding clothes, something I know FA about.

Obviously for the charity office interview I'll get my suit on with a shirt and tie but for the pub interview (it's a scream pub/bar, so not a smart or classy affair) what do people reckon? Could I get away with a shirt and a smart pair of jeans? I think a suit might look a little ridiculous when going for just a bar staff role

Go for a shirt, trousers and shoes. No need for a tie or jacket. Makes a good impression. I am a bar supervisor and done a few interviews and clothing wasn't a major factor in the decision making the smarter dressed stood out more.

[Boycie]

Go for a shirt, trousers and shoes. No need for a tie or jacket. Makes a good impression. I am a bar supervisor and done a few interviews and clothing wasn't a major factor in the decision making the smarter dressed stood out more.

slim waist and big tits, I've seen your staff!