ChaddesdenRam Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I feel away from home we could win more by attacking teams from the start with a 442 especially at places like bristol city who have a very leaky defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Spot on Shabash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 You really are the whole shabash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Be interesting to see if we do go for it next week. Brizzle look poor at the back but they have the strikers to hurt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungUttoxRam Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 To be honest most teams can and have hurt us these season, we just seem to play with a 'we'll score more than you' attitude at home and it pays off more often than it hasn't. Bristol seem bound to score at least 1 against us so why not attack straight from the off? But I'd settle for a 0-0 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ph34r:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Both Steves are likely to score - curse of the ex player and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think the key is to score one more goal than the home team. It is really that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 We started 4-4-2 vs lesta and that didnt help us, it was only when we went to 4-5-1 we started to take the game to them. I think formations and tactics are over thought, players should be able to work out where we are getting the better of a team and try and exploit that as much as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think the key is to score one more goal than the home team. It is really that simple. I think you might be right mate, they can't score if we've got the ball can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 We started 4-4-2 vs lesta and that didnt help us, it was only when we went to 4-5-1 we started to take the game to them. I think formations and tactics are over thought, players should be able to work out where we are getting the better of a team and try and exploit that as much as possible thats because we played leicester, completely different team to bristol city, give the fish a striking partner and we have won this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 thats because we played leicester, completely different team to bristol city, give the fish a striking partner and we have won this game I know, the OP said if we started more away games 4-4-2 we would do better, I was just pointing out that isn't exactly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 it isn't in fairness but we tend to score more goals with 2 up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 How many times have we actually played 4-5-1? Not too many I don't think. In response to your question, I think it's a bit of both. It always frustrates me when managers talk as if away games require something totally different, saying things like "away from home, we take the point" "it's really good to grab a goal like that a place like this." Of course away games are more difficult as the opposition tends to play better, but some manager's rhetoric makes it sound like an away match at Portman Road on a Tuesday night is an insummountable challenge. There are more guilty managers out there but Clough isn't innocent. He's always said we like to play 2 up front at home, and away "when we can". Unless the object is not to win all the time away from home, why can't we always? That said, I don't see 4-4-2 as a formation which automatically creates positive play, nor 4-5-1 one that creates negative play. Ultimately, it's all down to how much Coutts and Hughes see of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 We need to let some of our more attack minded players off the leash away from home, sick of playing for the draw. we could walk over most teams in this league with our attacking options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stedcfc Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Completely agree with Duracell why home advantage is seen as so important in the championship is beyond me. At the majority of grounds the away support is better than the home. The only other differences are a coach trip and an element of familiarity to the ground. It's all physiological. I suspect are poor away form is a side effect of having such a young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think its down to youth, inexperience and resultant mental fragility more than tactics. That will come though. Having played our last three away against teams who were flying, we now have three away games against more modest opposition. Another chance to step it up and show we're learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Don't think it's got owt to do with formation. We look like we lack belief and that we would settle for draw. We take very few risks. We end up looking like a team stuck in 2nd gear where everybody is nervous. We could play 442,451 or 424 but when we perform at 70% it doesn't matter. It falls at Nigel's feet for me, I don't blame him for everything that's wrong with the club but our away form is a 'keep it tight' sort of tactic. It sounds fair enough but it hasn't worked for him. We sell ourselves short by not having a real good go often enough. We keep it tight and that's all the invitation a home team needs. They start getting in, we get rattled, mistakes get made and we found ourselves down. Then you can't suddenly switch it on. Who knows how to get the right balance? That's what managers are managers for. They figure out the 'how'. But as for the 'why'...... I think Derby at Millwall were only 60-70% effective as we are at home. We show too much respect and end up with a lack of shots never mind goals and wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.