Ravabeerbelly

I think you’ll find there is a maximum amount of time they can offer.
This increases as they get older and the maximums are higher for the higher categories hence the requirement / need for more staff and more full time staff.
For example a Cat 3 club would have a lead coach who is full time for the foundation phase which is 7-12. A lead full time coach for Youth Development phase which is 13-16. A Cat 1 club will have at the very least full time staff for 9/10, 11/12, 13/14, 15/16. Many will have a full time member of staff for every single school boy age group.
They will all have full time staff for the Professional Development stage which is 17-21 but cat 1 clubs will have several (18/23s lead and assistant)

Access to sports scientists and physios is also increased, isn't it?

It’s always interesting of course. I like to hear different opinions, I’m just sick of this “everyone’s against us” mentality when when they boot has been on the other foot no one’s lifted a leg!
I particularly find it interesting that the clubs you suggest would’ve been against EPPP were in the main or more than likely Cat 2 academies who were busting a gut from then on to attain Cat 1 status.
You need to ask yourself why that would have been? Why would these clubs with a proven track record in producing talent suddenly want to invest more money, increase staff levels and give themselves a bigger liability to do what they were already proving capable of doing? To do this you need to look at the benefits of Cat 1 and what you get for your increased overhead.
1. It gives you increased contact time with young players, allowing more training time and education opportunity in house. This in itself will be a huge factor in any parents decision for their talented young son who has to decide between Derby and Mansfield for example as even though Mansfield may offer a clearer pathway to first team, most parents will consider the extra coaching hours as evidence that their son will be a better footballer. Not to mention that he will have the kudos of being a cat 1 academy player if he is released and needs other options. Lots more branches to hit on the way out of the Derby tree than there are from the Mansfield tree…. Already a good advantage to have in procuring young talent.
2. Much lower compensation to play if you see a young lad at 10/11 who has already been identified and worked with by a Notts County, Chesterfield, Mansfield or dare I say Forest? I don’t suppose for a second there would be any sentiment involved if the Derby recruitment team needed to flex their Cat 1 muscles and offer the player the benefit of their academy?
3. Much more compensation due of one of the super powers come calling and as fellow Cat 1 clubs can literally pay what they need to procure a talent. It may not be great but theirs more security than if you were a cat 2 Academy.
4. Most importantly - and it ties in with all the above - it increases your boundary on where young players can travel from to be eligible to sign for Derby County, increasing your scope to recruit players over the age of 12 into nearby areas of Cat 2 clubs such as Coventry, Sheffield Utd, Sheffield Wednesday, Birmingham or Crewe….don’t suppose their was much sympathy for any of these clubs who were having their best talent taken from their doorstep…Coventry and Crewe who have had their own financial issues over the years. 
 
It’s all well and good bleating about how Derby are being pillaged of their best talent when in a dire situation where they cannot protect themselves but as part of the food chain you have to understand that’s how it is or refuse to take part when the boots on the other foot. 
Isaac Hutchinson didn’t work out for us, but nobody was complaining about the financial free gamble we were taking when we took a 19 year old talent with 40 EFL games under his belt, from a league 2 club in dire financial mess who were forced to offload their brightest young player for free just becomes a bigger club saw an opportunity.
 
No one was concerned when our own financial problems denied Southend of any income simply because we could choose to not play him in order to not owe them anything….money they desperately needed and money they’d have no doubt got had they held on to a player and demanded an upfront fee…..
There has to be balance. It’s not perfect but the system is what it is. You can’t only bleat about it when it works against you. 

It’s always interesting of course. I like to hear different opinions, I’m just sick of this “everyone’s against us” mentality when when they boot has been on the other foot no one’s lifted a leg!
I particularly find it interesting that the clubs you suggest would’ve been against EPPP were in the main or more than likely Cat 2 academies who were busting a gut from then on to attain Cat 1 status.
You need to ask yourself why that would have been? Why would these clubs with a proven track record in producing talent suddenly want to invest more money, increase staff levels and give themselves a bigger liability to do what they were already proving capable of doing? To do this you need to look at the benefits of Cat 1 and what you get for your increased overhead.
1. It gives you increased contact time with young players, allowing more training time and education opportunity in house. This in itself will be a huge factor in any parents decision for their talented young son who has to decide between Derby and Mansfield for example as even though Mansfield may offer a clearer pathway to first team, most parents will consider the extra coaching hours as evidence that their son will be a better footballer. Not to mention that he will have the kudos of being a cat 1 academy player if he is released and needs other options. Lots more branches to hit on the way out of the Derby tree than there are from the Mansfield tree…. Already a good advantage to have in procuring young talent.
2. Much lower compensation to play if you see a young lad at 10/11 who has already been identified and worked with by a Notts County, Chesterfield, Mansfield or dare I say Forest? I don’t suppose for a second there would be any sentiment involved if the Derby recruitment team needed to flex their Cat 1 muscles and offer the player the benefit of their academy?
3. Much more compensation due of one of the super powers come calling and as fellow Cat 1 clubs can literally pay what they need to procure a talent. It may not be great but theirs more security than if you were a cat 2 Academy.
4. Most importantly - and it ties in with all the above - it increases your boundary on where young players can travel from to be eligible to sign for Derby County, increasing your scope to recruit players over the age of 12 into nearby areas of Cat 2 clubs such as Coventry, Sheffield Utd, Sheffield Wednesday, Birmingham or Crewe….don’t suppose their was much sympathy for any of these clubs who were having their best talent taken from their doorstep…Coventry and Crewe who have had their own financial issues over the years. 
 
It’s all well and good bleating about how Derby are being pillaged of their best talent when in a dire situation where they cannot protect themselves but as part of the food chain you have to understand that’s how it is or refuse to take part when the boots on the other foot. 
Isaac Hutchinson didn’t work out for us, but nobody was complaining about the financial free gamble we were taking when we took a 19 year old talent with 40 EFL games under his belt, from a league 2 club in dire financial mess who were forced to offload their brightest young player for free just becomes a bigger club saw an opportunity.
 
No one was concerned when our own financial problems denied Southend of any income simply because we could choose to not play him in order to not owe them anything….money they desperately needed and money they’d have no doubt got had they held on to a player and demanded an upfront fee…..
There has to be balance. It’s not perfect but the system is what it is. You can’t only bleat about it when it works against you. 

I’m pretty sure they do! They also get better funding depending on the grade of academy and the division you’re in.
Derby were part of the original vote! No doubt as a cat 1 they voted for it based on the power it gave them as the highest ranked status to pinch players at lost cost fees from the little clubs run ing cat 2/3/4 academies!
 
Didn’t see anyone complaining about that?

It was looked at and the EFL clubs, which included Derby, voted for the fixed compensation packages in favour of solidarity payments from the premier league. 
Derby are a Cat 1 academy football club and are therefore part of the problem to lower league clubs and as sure as eggs are eggs have swiped young talent from lower league clubs using the fixed compensation fees in place. People need to stop this ‘poor me’ mentality.
Anyway I’m not sure compensation for Malcolm will even equate to much. In relative terms they haven’t actually invested much time and money into him at all which is a huge criteria for what the compensation amounts to once the players enters the professional phase (ie full time).

Even in the Championship, I'd have 9 or 10 of them in my 23 man squad if including those with offers.
You are right about the squad as it stands, but we have a month to get deals sorted, including the likes of Davies, Kazim, etc...
Yes ?

The window was extended until end of September that season due to covid 

Apart from if Bielik stays would he not have been our most experienced league 1 player? 
I think it’s a shame that we never really got to see more of him as for me around the time of pre season he was ahead of Watson, Dixon, Thompson and Plange, but I said weeks ago, his career at Derby was over the minute we went into administration. 

Can’t see that happening. Not when the clubs are obligated to provide post school education for two years. 
There’s already an u17 PL Cup comp anyway.

I’m not sure anyone on here would deny that the lad can ‘play a bit’. You’ve hardly broken new ground on the talent ID course at the FA!!! 
But the comment that he and Festy would “tear up the championship” was and still is laughable. Like any young player their form will dip and their progress will slow, it will regress and then it will improve again. Judging either of them (along with others) on this basket case of a season, within the madness of this club and squad is ludicrous over a period so short, where expectations are so low and minor success were heralded as miracles, was ludicrous.
If he does end up at Man Utd be prepared to not see or hear of him for a 12-18 months while they do the work on him that should’ve been done in the 23s here, but wasn’t. I also wouldn’t be surprised to see him re-emerge as a full back either. 
I know you won’t even read this as you ‘ignore’ anyone with whom you don’t see eye to eye with but that is and always was my opinion. 

If United are serious then the lad's gone. I remember being taken to task on here when after two U23s appearances I remarked that the lad would tear up the Championship with Festy if we could hang onto them. 'Deifying him after only two games' apparently!
Seems I'm not the only person who thinks the lad can play a bit, more's the pity ?

There isn't a straight line between decent in the Championship and good in League One though.  Different leagues and different situations suit different players. 
People get carried away by someone working hard, running around a lot and snapping into a tackle now and then but it's nearly always better to control the midfield, be pro active rather than reactive.
If the opposition bypass the midfield and go long (as is considered traditional league one fare) what use is Shinnie? He's not physically dominant, positionally astute and won't win any defensive headers. If we want to control the midfield... what's his role? He slows play down too much because it takes him 3-4 touches to turn himself atound from controlling it to playing a forward pass. 
I just don't see how he fits in. 

@Ravabeerbelly & @86 Hair Islands 
Come on now. Kiss and make up - these are happy times 

Happy to hear examples. 

You’re as dismissive of my opinion as you claim I am of others. You just don’t like mine because it doesn’t fit the ‘we are derby and the worlds against us and it’s not our fault’ narrative. 
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To be fair, Jude Bellingham did something along these lines for Birmingham, which is partly why they retired his shirt number.
But then again, he was regarded as arguably the best young talent in world football, and therefore always going to get a move. He'd also been at the Birmingham academy since he was a kid. There isn't that fanfare or history surrounding Ebiowei, and I wouldn't expect him to do something detrimental towards his career just so we can get a few quid. 

Why would any player sign a contract just so the club get a transfer fee? Give your head a wobble!
Oh Malcolm sign a £5k a week contract with us just so that when Man City try to buy you we can over price you in the knowledge we either get a huge over inflated fee (just because they can) or we over price you so much it puts clubs off and we get to keep you for a snip!
Oh yeah, also, if they do sign for you £10 mill, we get a nice little earner and you get £10k a week and £100k signing on fee instead of us getting nothing and you getting £30k a week and a signing on fee that means you or none of your family ever have to work again…..
Yeah tough one.

I'm hoping that CK will be employing his own specialist to cover this aspect now he's a club owner. ?

I recommend Bitdefender, but other anti virus software packages are available ?

What like Jack Clarke did? Or Marcus Edwards? 

What like Jack Clarke did? Or Marcus Edwards?