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Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

Disaster strikes on Friday morning after Quantuma leave the last few bits of paperwork on the boardroom table overnight

I’ll poke my nose in and say look no further than Rosenior I think he is a class act and has a good future in management ahead of him.Good luck next season hope you come straight back up.

Manager turnover is probably as high as it has been since I've been watching football. We are sadly in no-mans land and have slid into the League 1. If a manager cannot get us moving forward again at some stage within 2 to 3 years absolute maximum then you probably get sacked. If you do get us moving in the right direction then someone higher in the pyramid just taps up your manager and pays you enough to replace a couple of rows of seats. It's not just us, it's a phenomenon across the divisions. Very few managers stay with a team more than say 5 years.
Just taking the current PL. Other than Klopp and Guardiola there is only one other PL manager that has made it to 4 years yet and a shocking 50% have been in charge less than a year. Conclusion. Be top of the tree and win loads of stuff and you might make it past 5 years... possibly. Madness ?

Manager turnover is probably as high as it has been since I've been watching football. We are sadly in no-mans land and have slid into the League 1. If a manager cannot get us moving forward again at some stage within 2 to 3 years absolute maximum then you probably get sacked. If you do get us moving in the right direction then someone higher in the pyramid just taps up your manager and pays you enough to replace a couple of rows of seats. It's not just us, it's a phenomenon across the divisions. Very few managers stay with a team more than say 5 years.
Just taking the current PL. Other than Klopp and Guardiola there is only one other PL manager that has made it to 4 years yet and a shocking 50% have been in charge less than a year. Conclusion. Be top of the tree and win loads of stuff and you might make it past 5 years... possibly. Madness ?

Anyone thinking that we should 'Go and get Dyche' really hasn't grasped the reality of our situation ! He is so hilariously out of our wage and aspiration league currently that its painful. He might struggle a bit for a PL job due to a perception of his football style but there will be a queue round the corner of Championship sides wanting a little extra something to get them over the line. After several years in the PL his wages would surely be a factor of several times what we can afford.
Rosenior is the continuity candidate but who else is even available ? Are we really going to want to pay compensation ? As for Rosenior. Does he have it ? I'm not so sure. His knowledge is good and he speaks very well and seems to be a good coach but I just wonder if he is authoritative enough to chew the players up a bit if they are not doing what is required. WR tapping into the siege mentality last year was probably not actually that difficult, but this year is a very different challenge.. not the levels of burning resentment amongst players and fans.

Anyone thinking that we should 'Go and get Dyche' really hasn't grasped the reality of our situation ! He is so hilariously out of our wage and aspiration league currently that its painful. He might struggle a bit for a PL job due to a perception of his football style but there will be a queue round the corner of Championship sides wanting a little extra something to get them over the line. After several years in the PL his wages would surely be a factor of several times what we can afford.
Rosenior is the continuity candidate but who else is even available ? Are we really going to want to pay compensation ? As for Rosenior. Does he have it ? I'm not so sure. His knowledge is good and he speaks very well and seems to be a good coach but I just wonder if he is authoritative enough to chew the players up a bit if they are not doing what is required. WR tapping into the siege mentality last year was probably not actually that difficult, but this year is a very different challenge.. not the levels of burning resentment amongst players and fans.

I'm sure Rosenior is very familiar with all 5 of our players by now, don't think an extra week or 2 would make any difference. ??

I wonder if this decision was made a while ago and Rosenior knew it hence hanging around. Perhaps Rooney has been waiting until now as the club seems to be passing into safe hands and not relying on his celebrity to a hard-nosed bidder.

Just trying to find some positives.. ?

I wonder if this decision was made a while ago and Rosenior knew it hence hanging around. Perhaps Rooney has been waiting until now as the club seems to be passing into safe hands and not relying on his celebrity to a hard-nosed bidder.

Just trying to find some positives.. ?

This 100%, a great summary. Apart from the privileged few at the top table, football for most of us is not about glory seeking, it's about a connection with your team and community (the huge march showed us that) and as you say, a distraction from the daily grind, a chance to lose yourself in a game for a bit. It's fickle, it will let you down (god knows we've had some sickening moments in playoff finals!) but it'll have you in tears of joy, whether that's actually achieving/winning something or just bouncing around after a scratch team of kids and what looks like their dads grabs a 93rd minute equaliser at Accrington that flies in off someone's arse.
After the last couple of years lets hope that we can all keep the current levels of perspective. League 1 can be a 'mare to get out of and there is are so many teams that get becalmed down here whose fans were no doubt all sure that they'd bounce straight back. We need a team before we can worry about how they will fare. We're still under restrictions so although there may be a few signings I reckon that initially we'll see a bunch of loans to try to tide us over and fill in the obvious gaping holes in the squad and maybe a few tweaks in the January but the team is going to be what it is and much more to do next summer. Even if we get a decent number of players in it will be a largely new team, much of which has not played together competitively. Patience and unswerving support is what's required. It was a genuine privilege to see our fans siege mentality last year after all the deduction but this year will need a different sort of vibe.

This 100%, a great summary. Apart from the privileged few at the top table, football for most of us is not about glory seeking, it's about a connection with your team and community (the huge march showed us that) and as you say, a distraction from the daily grind, a chance to lose yourself in a game for a bit. It's fickle, it will let you down (god knows we've had some sickening moments in playoff finals!) but it'll have you in tears of joy, whether that's actually achieving/winning something or just bouncing around after a scratch team of kids and what looks like their dads grabs a 93rd minute equaliser at Accrington that flies in off someone's arse.
After the last couple of years lets hope that we can all keep the current levels of perspective. League 1 can be a 'mare to get out of and there is are so many teams that get becalmed down here whose fans were no doubt all sure that they'd bounce straight back. We need a team before we can worry about how they will fare. We're still under restrictions so although there may be a few signings I reckon that initially we'll see a bunch of loans to try to tide us over and fill in the obvious gaping holes in the squad and maybe a few tweaks in the January but the team is going to be what it is and much more to do next summer. Even if we get a decent number of players in it will be a largely new team, much of which has not played together competitively. Patience and unswerving support is what's required. It was a genuine privilege to see our fans siege mentality last year after all the deduction but this year will need a different sort of vibe.

Perhaps they should quote this bit to the would-be contract dodgers.. ?

That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.