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3/10/1993, Derby 5 WBA 3.

3 hours ago, Mucker1884 said:

29/09/2007: 

9.09% of our total points were earned on this day... A 1-1 draw at home to Bolton.

Points-wise, we were level with Bolton and Spurs after that, on 5 each. 

Still a whopping 6 more glorious points to celebrate, before the season is out!  ?

  

 

The one season in the last 20 in the PL so just one PL win in the last 20 seasons.

A potential buyer though would be planning and expecting Derby back in the PL sometime, and there to stay. But will take a while...

29/9/1923, Bristol City 0 Derby 8.

28/9/1994, Derby 2 Reading 0, LC 2nd leg, go through on away goals.

27/9/1997, Derby 4 Southampton 0.

26/9/1896, Derby 7 Bury 2.

Let's hope we don't join them.

25/9/1974, Derby 4 Chelsea 1.

33 minutes ago, Half Fan Half Biscuit said:

As a taxpayer I think it’s piss-poor of HMRC to allow one football club to run up £26m of unpaid tax on its own. 
 

They’ve consistently been taken for a ride by football clubs over the years and ought to recognise the signs by now. 

Totally agree. Income tax, VAT I assume, club collects to pass on, system needs tightening up...

35 minutes ago, Oldben said:

It's rumoured pride Park would cost 81 mullion to buy.

If I were the new owner I'd seek to ground share for a while, probably look at Notts county ground share as that's an 18000 seater stadium.

I would not look to buy back pride Park.

I would consider building a new ground some where around Derby.

Chesterfields 10000 seater Proact Stadium cost around 13 million, I thought it a decent stadium for a new ground.

So a 30000 seater stadium could cost 40 to 45 million.

Half the amount required to buy back pride Park.

 

Worth looking into, even if just a negotiating ploy, but a buyer would examine all options.

4 minutes ago, CornwallRam said:

Where are the club going to get £81m to buy back the ground?

Buyer comes in with funds. Says wants deal to cover some/all debts plus freehold of ground, prepared to give time for complexities to be worked out. Not interested without ground. Sees what price they come up with, takes it from there...

5 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said:

I am struggling a little to see why liquidation  is that likely.

Assuming that there are groups out there that would want to buy us then why would any of the creditors (and administrators) want to liquidate and get very little than take a bigger even if not great %age owed from the best available offer.

Think that even if liquidated there is still a period for someone to come in and do a deal, a high stakes poker game.

17 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said:

That’s all I’m clinging onto at this point, if admin can reduce 10-15% of those costs itl be a bonus for somebody. The biggest stumbling block is though, when Mel bought for the club for circa £50m he got everything, the club, academy & the stadium. 
 

Any buyer now is going to have to shell out £40+m for a club with a thread bare squad with no real saleable assets, an academy where it looks as if the man who’s been running it for the last 10-15 years has stepped away and of course no ground.

Think a buyer would want the freehold of the ground, a deal that covers some or all of the debts plus the stadium. 

Derby County game totals, incl Derby 2 Stoke 1, 18/9/2021.

League 4954, FA Cup 349, League Cup 185, Play-offs 20, Others 63, Total 5571.

Derby County all time League record, incl Derby 2 Stoke 1, 18/9/2021.

P 4954, W 1916, D 1212, L 1826, F 7530, A 7242.

Derby best at Sheffield United 4-0 in 1972.

21/9/1974, Derby 3 Burnley 2, 2nd win after 8 games, slow start to championship winning season.

Turn this round to the prospective buyer, assuming there might be one.

The training ground was always leased by DC I believe, that could continue.

PP was owned by DC at one time, seems not now. As buyer would want freehold of PP in any deal, otherwise no deal. Absolutely no deal without the stadium included, even if that takes longer to achieve. Separating the club from the stadium is an extremely bad move that I would simply not accept.

See newsnow/Derby county, 14.13, the political economy of football, bleak prospects at Derby...

5 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said:

Not a financial expert, but am I right in thinking that under insolvency rules the administrator will carry out an audit on the club? 

May be whatever Mel has been taking out of the club or leveraging as loans from himself may be scrutinised anyway. Given the near constant loopholes in his tenure it wouldn't surprise me if he gets caught out by an external audit of the club anyway. 

Bright side that the money 'owed' to him may not be legal and scope to challenge them anyway. 

l would prefer buying from an administrator than the current owner. The full financial position should be exposed, a settlement figure agreed, and the new owner starts afresh. For me the settlement would have to include the freehold of PP stadium, otherwise no deal.

A prospective buyer likely to bide their time. Derby likely to be relegated, 39 dead rubber games to go. As time goes by any buy-out sum likely to fall further. Administrator will establish the overall financial picture. Buyer would monitor position, assess any competitors, watch out for possible liquidation, come in at the optimum time.  Meanwhile planning for next season with a view to formally taking over a few months into 2022.

Expect to get DC club, freehold of PP stadium, take over lease of training ground.

14/9/1889, Derby 3 WBA 1, same again please...

23 August 2014, Derby 5 Fulham 1, Ward, Bryson, Martin 2, Dawkins.

Derby at Sheffield United no LC before last in FAC 1-0 win in 1986.

14th after 4 games, better than I expected...

21 August 1971, Leicester 0 Derby 2, Hector, Hinton.