Footymum2017

On 19/04/2021 at 01:12, whiteroseram said:

Doesn't the U16 season normally finished really early? I'm guessing they normally have exams etc a lot of them 

The academies aren’t really bothered about that! Most still have fixtures on but have moved the u16s to the u18s to make up the numbers when the 2nd year scholars have been released if they need to or carry on with u16 fixtures.

10 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Is this down to Covid restrictions?

Partly but U16 fixtures have been allowed for a while now and they still don’t seem to be having many. Not sure if it is because of a shortage of coaches.

9 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

I assume you're referring to Evans(GK), Sebagabo, Moore and Dixon in particular?

Yes

2 hours ago, angieram said:

No idea, once we get below the under 18s, I have no idea how many separate groupings we have or understand what structures they play in.

There are about 9 u16s but they don’t seem to be getting any u18 game time apart from Riley Maloney and Reece Nicholas. The U16s hardly have any games either so they’re not getting much game time.

14 hours ago, angieram said:

OK, so the first team pinch the under 23s, the 23s pick the 18s and the 18s are youngsters. 

Good experience for them so long as they don't get roughed up! 

Not sure where all the u16s are, only a couple in the u18 squad for that game

4 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

More on Harry Hawkins on the official site.

Captained the U11s as they won the EFL Kids Cup in 2017. Guess that makes him a member of the U15 squad.

Yes he’s an u15, centre mid

4 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

There's also a Daniel Cox on the bench. Supposedly a keeper and I'm guessing another from the U15s

Daniel Cox is an U15, left or right back can’t remember which! 

13 hours ago, angieram said:

Thanks,  I wondered whether that might be the case. Do you know who has gone and are you allowed to share? 

 

The only one that I know for certain is Jinkinson. There were a couple of others that weren’t in the 18 squad against Leeds that don’t usually play in the 23s so I would think they have gone aswell unless injured.

2 hours ago, angieram said:

Just demonstrating how thin on the ground we are at this level. he seems a bright young prospect, hope we look after him. 

BTW, he has signed for Derby, interesting that they are still listing him as  a triallist.

He’s been signed as a scholar and given a 1 year pro apparently. Some of the 2nd year scholars have been released now so the 16s will be getting more chance with the 18s.

3 hours ago, Boycie said:

Ask @Footymum2017 she knows everything about the youth set up.

Sorry i don’t know the answer to that one although I can’t imagine that there wasn’t some sort of sell on clause. 

Harrison Solomon has just signed his first pro contract

United are set to sign u15 Malachi Sharpe & u14s Sekou Kaba & James Scanlon from Derby County

1 hour ago, California Ram. said:

Great result but for context debuts for 5 Man Utd u-16s, including 14 year old Finley McCallister. 

United had 2 u15s and 4 u16s playing

2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

U18 PL Cup kicks off at 12:30 today. A lot of new names including the Trialist brothers, Trialists and Trialust. I'm guessing Zion Dixon is Connor's younger brother (first time he's featured in the uU18s)

I'm guessing the trialists play RB, DM, AM and LW

No relation to Connor Dixon

1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said:

Odd. Why would they pay that much, is it similar to Gordon? But u15s must be unable to sign anything?

I don't think any club would pay that. As far as I know none of the U15s have had an England call up, 1 has for Wales. None of them are playing for the 18s, 2 or 3 play up for the 16s sometimes but most academies do that, usually down to numbers rather than anything else.

16 hours ago, Uptherams said:

If a player is good enough, then they wait for the second time that a club comes in for them, because they will. The lad could have stayed here for another 2 seasons and potentially bagged 50+ appearances. He benefits and so do we. £10m to us is a substantial amount of money. To Liverpool it's next to nothing. Wrong decision. This is the second time this has happened in the last year. The club needs to prevent it from happening again. 

Then again, they shipped Whiticker out like it was nothing. Our outgoings for as long as I remember have been shambolic. There's only a few exceptions. 

 

Wrong decision for who? Whittaker stayed and signed a pro and Derby shipped him out a year into a 3year contract. Nobody seems to be questioning Derbys loyalty but have been slating a 16year old for having no loyalty ?‍♀️

1 hour ago, DCFC1388 said:

I assume he means 2m upfront

I don’t think that there are any u15s at Derby that would be worth that sort of figure. 

4 hours ago, Footymum2017 said:

Gordon signed last week so not sure why its not been announced. Think he’s up there training with them this week.  I’ve not heard anything about the U15s so not sure if that rumour is true. 

The meeting with the PL is this afternoon so should be announced later or tomorrow.

7 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Still ongoing. Same as Gordon.

Gordon signed last week so not sure why its not been announced. Think he’s up there training with them this week.  I’ve not heard anything about the U15s so not sure if that rumour is true. 

3 hours ago, DCFC1388 said:

Expected this to have been done before the weekend with all the talk midweek, wonder why its taking so long

I think they are still waiting for permission for him to change academies which comes from the EFL.

52 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

https://www.elfvoetbal.nl/Binnenland/276553/Samuel-Sebagabo-het-Nederlandse-talent-dat-jeugdteams-overslaat-bij-Derby-County

It was actually PSV. He moved to this country, and didn't have a team for a couple of years. Failed trial with Leicester before we gave him a chance in 2018.

One of the dads that runs a grass roots team told Derby about him and they went to watch and offered him a trial. 

33 minutes ago, r4derby said:

 

Yep, I get that. Same as when I was younger and played youth football. My query was footymum saying that someone who is 16 going into September would play U16. That’s not the case. If they’re 16 before 1st September, they would usually by going into the U17. Feel like it’s all irrelevant anyway

If you were 16 1st September 2020 you would be an u16 for this season. Sam is definitely an u16

2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

 

Just to add, someone said he occasionally played for the U16s when he was only 13. Perhaps he is still officially an U15 but he stepped up to the U18s very early?

He's definitely an Under 16.Same age group as Kaide Gordon.

3 hours ago, Steve Buckley’s Dog said:

I find it a little difficult to believe that he hasn’t got an agent. The murky world of academy football and under the table offers to children and their families starts well before the age of 16. Transfer values are attached and agents ‘advise’, even those whose chances of making it are slim. Internal politics and favourites exist whilst offers are made to circumnavigate rules about distances from training grounds. Money talks. It is all about commodities and risk for bigger clubs, like Man City for example. What to do for the best must be extremely hard for the children and their families. 
 

It is very murky!

15 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

7 or 8 of the U16 have featured in the U18s matchday squad this season. Sebagabo made his 6th appearance of the season today... he only turned 15 in September!

I think that he would have been 16 in September or he would be in the u15 age group not u16. I think there are only 4 or 5 u16s left after they did the release a few weeks ago, they’ll be bringing trial lists in now to add to the squad, they usually have 8 or 9 scholars each year.