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Collins was about 3 yards off side, is the reason he didnt pass 

Collins was about 3 yards off side, is the reason he didnt pass 

Collins was about 3 yards off side, is the reason he didnt pass 

Collins was about 3 yards off side, is the reason he didnt pass 

Probably fair to say that none of Ward, Fornah or Sibley advanced their claim to be starting league matches. 

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Ward         Nelson         Cashin          Elder
                          Robinson
               Thompson      Fornah       
   Barkz                Collins                Sibley
                           
Vickers, Cox, Wilson, Bradley, Smith, John-Jules, Brown
     
 

Personally, Bird is a player that's hard to rate.
NML..you see the driving runs, ball carrying, crosses.
Wilson, the tricks and dribbles. 
Nelson, the headers, the brushing players off the ball.
Collins, the work rate, energy...occasional missed chances.
Bird... he's neat, tidy. Elegant almost. Doesn't seem to get about the pitch - but that may be unfair perception,  doesn't score many.  Never one for a ferocious tackle..
I don't notice him that much in games. Doesn't take free kicks. No towering headers. 
That dribble yesterday seemed almost out of character as he almost drove with the ball. 
Certainly isn't especially pacey...
So I kinda feel we wouldn't miss him. But every manager has rated him and they know more than me!

Max has 2 goals v The Cobblers and 2 assists v The Cods , which is good . But we need him to “Show up” against better opposition . 

I would be fairly relaxed with allowing Bird to leave for funds to spend. 
He’s a good player technically, but has absolutely struggled to consistently to provide an impact for us. I’ve really like Fornah from what I’ve seen and honestly don’t believe we would lose much, if anything, losing Bird to give him more game time.

He’s not been given a proper run of games, but what I really like the bits I’ve seen. I think he has a lot of potential, it wasn’t long ago most people had him down with Nyambe and Nelson as our best signing of the summer. 
Bird, I feel, gives us too many 6/10 games. He isn’t impactful enough. No doubt he’s a technically good footballer and he obviously is a great character around the club. He’s a good player for us, no doubt, but it wouldn’t be difficult for us to sell him and improve the side IMO. Similarly to losing Knight, ironically, the guy we picked up as part of the deal has come in and been much improved on the Knight we saw and had last season. 

We never seem to get market value for our players - sounds like we're only going to be talking a few hundred thousand whether he goes in the transfer window or the summer. I don't think Bird will ever be a top class player as he doesn't have any standout attributes, but he's definitely proven Championship quality and worth £2-3 million. 

We need new CM there was a massive hole in our team today with bird and hourihane. One of the worst games i have seen bird play! He should of just stayed in bed because he was a waste of a player today should of just played with 10 men

He not even put a tackle in and just jogging around i think he knows hes going didnt look intrested one bit

Why do you love him so much?  Do you not agree about his game today? 

Championship? He’s out played in league 1 more than not?

I totally agree i think we would get more in compo then achually selling him

Sell u dont think you will get that sirt of money for him, think we would be lucky to get 1.5m i think he would go for about a 750,000 to million 

He not even put a tackle in and just jogging around i think he knows hes going didnt look intrested one bit

He not even put a tackle in and just jogging around i think he knows hes going didnt look intrested one bit

He not even put a tackle in and just jogging around i think he knows hes going didnt look intrested one bit

£500k would seem about right . We need a player that can tackle in midfield . Max didn’t even take on the dead ball duties after Hourihane went off . Don’t get me started on his goals and assists numbers !  ( we are talking tier 3 remember).

Personally, if we got 2-3 million for Bird in this window I’d snap their hand off and take it. We could buy a good replacement with that money, and someone who fits the role which we need better than Bird.

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I’m not sure about that, last night for example we had 19 corners and barely won a header from them. Don’t think we get the striker involved in the game enough either.
 
Wigan first half is how I want us to play football, was moving the ball quickly, movement off the ball and creating chances.
Is a great run but don’t think we’ve cracked it by any means, was a similar vibe around the club this time last year and that unravelled.

Don't think that's his style. And there's no need to demonise him more than has been already done tbh.