Gee SCREAMER !!

2 minutes ago, Curtains said:

THe had one good game against Millwall 

That propelled him to a super player status with some fans 

Think that's unfair. He was excellent against Fulham and Blackburn before lockdown.  He has a lot of potential but it probably won't be used here. He should be good for 10-12 goals a season.  I expect him to move in the summer and I fancy a premier league side will take a punt for the 3 or 4 million we will inevitably take.  He's losing value and career movement sat here. He's not getting game time because he gives away too many free kicks .  If we were more on the front foot and scoring freely the occasional goal from a silly free kick is accepted .  If you only normally score once a game it's not.

5 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said:

They look quite a young team as well - might be dark horses for a play-off position next season?

Barnsley have done this on and off for thirty years.  Summer sale incoming. 

700K was a decent price.  Seen punctured balls move faster than that. Defender unsighted the goalie.  Was expecting a thirty yard screamer with Thunderstruck by AC/DC as a soundtrack. 

2 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said:

Not Thorne-related, but Colin Todd isn’t particularly happy with how the club has treated him, either!

I assume this started before Mel’s time though.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/77L1ysKnrl03anYPOHZaGB?si=BLptuLHdTTmbj0ew0tbXCA

Not sure about that one.  Excellent player for the club, but he was pants as a manager to be honest.   I think Derby have always treated there old players pretty well, certainly the ones who live locally. Particularly Pickering. If he was complaining about old players getting better treatment than him, I'd take the point. But his moan is about previous Derby managers getting tickets to the directors box.

Has he offered his PFA player of the year trophy to the club .  Sure they'd have it if he offered.  Perhaps he's looking to sell it. 

2 hours ago, Footymum2017 said:

Wrong decision for who? Whittaker stayed and signed a pro and Derby shipped him out a year into a 3year contract. Nobody seems to be questioning Derbys loyalty but have been slating a 16year old for having no loyalty ?‍♀️

Did he or was Derby the best offer he had at the time. Perhaps he had 20 offers but liked it here as it suited him at the time.  That would be personal choice rather than loyalty. He has had a fair few first team games and then left for a team higher in the table to play for a manager he knows well so it's worked out well for him. If he hadn't signed a pro contract here, would he have the games elsewhere to secure that move.  Derby couldn't ship him out, he had a contract and chose to move. 

preston- rotherham live text is just 80 mins of free kicks and Richard Wood headers. Not surprised.

2 minutes ago, Spanish said:

QPR look quite good can’t see that they will get dragged in

Possibly but 2 points behind them is better than 3 plus goals. Keep them close as possible. 

Prestons a strange one who could still get pulled in late on after the latest window.  Surprised that they let Fisher go to Boro as he always seemed pretty quick and a game changer for them.  Very pedestrian side otherwise.

Could do with a Blackburn win against QPR

We simply don't beat teams around us and stopping them getting points is as essential as getting them yourself .   Think bar Birmingham we've got 3 points from teams in the bottom 6 or so places.  A side that's taken some many points from the reverse end of the table shouldn't be in this situation.  

9 minutes ago, Charlie George said:

Been scrolling through the podcasts on Talk Derby to me and came across the Lee Camp series.

Most will probably loath him on this forum,but he comes across very well. Speaks from the heart and 500 plus games in his career so far speaks volumes for dedication and desire.

Certainly goes up in my estimation.

Had quite a chat with him and Giles Barnes, Leacock and Tudgay at a place in Derby on its opening night in 2009.  He was certainly the most likeable and down to earth. Seemed a very polite fella.  

On 03/02/2021 at 20:06, abertawe_ram said:

Who can blame the poor guy?!A korma is bad at the best of times, that one looks like its already been eaten by and made it's way through somebody else 

Looks very innovative . Curry and lager mixed in one simple tray with a straw.  Like one of those breakfasts in a bottle. 

On 03/02/2021 at 18:44, Mr. P said:

 

14 minutes ago, Zag zig said:

Thought it might have benefitted us for him to come on sooner, as his aggressive nature might have helped.

Probably his dip in form earlier in the season, has almost made him a bit of a fall guy for what was going wrong. He’s still young, learning and I’m fairly hopeful Wayne knows that young players form comes and goes. So I think we’ll see plenty more of him.

Does make me wonder if he’s a bit of a confidence player because at times last season he was magical, odd games this he’s been quiet in games. Got to be patient with him though, remember his age. 

He's a good player but gets far to engaged in the petty tit for tit.  he'll play more if he fouls less. Free kicks in dangerous areas really cost in this league.

On 02/02/2021 at 16:28, mice_elf said:

Off the top of my head - Dave Mackay, Archie Gemmill, John McGovern & John O'Hare

If you are too young to remember them, have a look on Wiki.
 

The 4 Players mentioned also had the distinction of winning some of their Honours with Derby County.

Thought it may be a really old boy like John Goodall but appears not.

Did find this about him though

He died in Watford in May 1942 and was buried at Vicarage Road Cemetery in an unmarked grave until, in May 2018, Watford FC provided a headstone adorned with the club crest and text recording Goodall's many sporting achievements.

Seems he was manager there, but shame the Derby County crest isn't on there as well as he was there first big signing, spent 11 years here and Bloomer always believed learning from him made him the player he was.

Just now, StrawHillRam said:

Nuts now winning

OG.  Brill evening

14 minutes ago, abertawe_ram said:

Bogle's goal helps the blades clinch the win that takes them on to 11 points. Our record continues to live 

Does he still live in Derby.  Fire and pitchforks at the county border refusing him entry. 

Our fellow 1-0 shithouses are..... 1-0 up.

1 hour ago, AGR said:

Regardless of whether it was Franks preference or not he should've been told the reasons instead of the poor lad wasting two years of his life with us whilst he was never going to play. Derby should have done the decent thing and let him go to QPR even if it meant taking a loss (if that was possible with his West Brom deal)

Surely his agent would've picked up on the £15k per match when we signed him.

Whilst I don't agree with him refusing to be on the bench or play for the 23s under McClaren I can't help but feel sorry for him. He's had some rotten luck with injuries and treated appallingly by Mel. I'm surprised he's not more bitter to be honest.

I'm guessing Anya was in the same boat.

Imagine that was the problem.  Bit like we got paid for Ince when he moved to Stoke.  Wasn't sure what he meant by paying 2k a week from his wages to make up the difference in transfer fee.  Does that mean we would be covering a chunk of wages if he went to QPR ?.

Don't know. Always liked Thorne as a player and it sounds like his treatment with the broken leg wasn't great, but his attitude comes across as quite belligerent and inflexible in this and not sure he did himself any favours, as much as he wasn't aware of his contract details.

7 hours ago, Tyler Durden said:

Are the Assembly Rooms still there last time I heard they were being planned on being pulled down. 

I hardly frequent Derby City centre anymore living in Notts even less so now with Covid lockdowns.

It was being pulled down.  Now it's not as far as I know.

4 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said:

Just listened to Part 2.

George still comes across as a bit of a nob, but so does Mel.

To be honest a fair bit of money was floating around that season when Lampard was here.  The cash spent on Holmes last minute would  have covered his 15k a game.  Struck me that Morris was perhaps saying Frank didn't really want to spend 15 k a week on playing you as he used the cash to get someone else in given the choice in another way trying to spare his feelings.

Probably knows that himself.   

Thought I'd have a quick look on OTIB as there recent loathing of us is always good for a chuckle. Today was always going to be a good one if we signed anybody.  Turns out there's a weeks worth and it's gone full house party at Norman Bates. Here's a sample for your bedtime reading you illiterate lot. This is one post by the way.

Few observations on this:

The OP appeared to have jumped the gun- think a few were cheering early as well but anyway.

Would/should Keogh not be classed as a Football Creditor? I'd argue there might be a case but maybe that's 2+2=5? It's being appealed in any event (about the only thing that is appealing about that club).

Are they all up to date on their Tax ie on Player Wages- granted clubs will have taken advantage of the tax delays, but delay and defer is quite different to waived. EFL also decided to waive requirements for clubs in terms of Transfer Embargo if overdue taxation etc, presumably with Government blessing.

Those loans from MSD will still need repaying- along with any interest due.

Gabay's charge also still shows not cleared as yet, see Gellaw Newco 202 and Gellaw Newco 204.

Possible they have blocked the George Evans sale too.

On a side note, aren't their players generous- fancy not getting paid correctly and not only playing on but playing to win- same with Sheffield Wednesday, 13 pts from 6 games since wage issues came to light- is there a lesson??

Brighton seem generous too- would you leave a player on loan at a club when wage issues kick in at said club (see Matt Clarke). They lost £67.2m last season FFS! Why would you help out a club who have cash flow issues when you yourself made enormous (but owner covered in part no doubt) losses- I wouldn't! How much of Clarke's wages are Derby paying?

I also note Mel Morris is a CBE- he sure is...insert your own wording though, mine well and truly would differ to the official one. 

PPS- Deferred wages and this is far from a Derby specific issue, have these also been settled in full- both at Derby and other clubs. If not they represent Football Creditors and if that's the case, I question why they are not under restrictions.

Also on another (final) side note, based on DCFCFans their fans do seem somewhat- and their ranting at Matt Hughes and claims of bias on Twitter- they do at least based on a sample, seem somewhat illiterate financially speaking in a football sense. I read OwlsTalk from time to time and they do seem to have a number who know what they're on about Accounting wise, possible sign off issues- they're thin on the ground on Derby's main forum. Perhaps I'm not reading in any great depth and extrapolating unfairly.

Edited 10 hours ago by Mr Popodopolous

5 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said:

Just cause it's not announced doesn't mean it isn't done

7 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Because Boro have to confirm his release and they only signed Mendez-Laing at 10.37. Think you're getting irritated with the wrong party buddy!

Just a bit tongue in cheek.  The post does look quite serious.  Obviously the fella going to Boro was the main target .  This blokes been available for a few hours- if he is. Will be difficult to get this one done in that time.  Boro won't be in a rush to do us a favour. I'm disappointed we haven't got a pacy striker in . We really needed that option.  Might be Lawrence up top in an emergency.

Christ.  Leaving it to the last minute to get that signature on the deal, we've been after this bloke since at least 6 PM . Why are these things so protracted . Get it sorted.

Thought the targets we had were carefully chosen.. this is more pack your crap in the car you're leaving for Derby if it happens.  

35 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

If we sell Waghorn and we might because he is out of contract if we get anything worth taking and this lad has played wide right 

Are we not going to wind up in one of those insane situations if we sell him for a million quid, where his value is held against us.  Don't really understand that rule.  Perhaps it's because I mentally switch of from this scenario where we extend a players contract that we don't want just to avoid it . Seems crazy. Don't know if they even take into account depreciation in value due to age and injury with this crap.