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15 minutes ago, SFox1993 said:

We had to ... need 3 keepers in the 23

Wasn’t Idem the 3rd keeper last year? Who wouldn’t of counted as a professional player I believe. Surely a similar set up this year would’ve allowed us to bring in another outfielder?

7 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

I would imagine none of Jagielka, Baldock or Carroll would want to sign under £4500-a-week. The three we signed have, to our knowledge. 

I get that this is a possibility but surely there would be other free agents willing to. Even if they aren’t as good, it is a numbers game to some degree. 2 30-odd-year-old CBs until at least Bielik is back is concerning (although this isn’t news to any of us). 

5 minutes ago, Carnero said:

Alan Nixon has suggested we have to have 3 GK's as part of the 23.

If the 23 is actually 3 GK's + 20 outfield players, the signing of Allsop is not as baffling as first thought.

I saw him say this but tried to find the rules, and couldn’t find anything to that end. Even so, last season we had the u23s keeper as third choice. Presumably they’re not playing without a keeper this year and the same could have been done.

6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

He's a keeper we want on reasonable wages. Marshall isn't cutting it atm.

I get this but surely more pressing concerns than second choice keeper.

23 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

13:46 STEVE NICHOLSON

Free agents

Jagielka, Baldock and Carroll are not training with Derby at the minute, they are waiting.

This + Wisdom really makes the signing of Allsop even more baffling.

                    Allsop

Ebosele Davies Stearman Forsyth

       Hutchinson Shinnie

    Jozwiak Morrison Sibley

                 Stretton 

I believe all of these count as professional players. I think it’s wise to rest where we can given our lack of a squad. Would like to keep Jozwiak in to build up confidence with hopefully a good performance against easier competition, but I think Wayne will go with Lawrence. Horrible to say but going out of the cups early this season wouldn’t be the worst thing, although I’m a strong believer in the momentum that wins can bring.

3 minutes ago, LeedsRam1999 said:

My team would be:

                        Allsop

Byrne  Cashin   Davies   Buchanan 

            Thompson Shinnie 

Ebosele    Sibley    Morrison 

               Stretton

This team is by no means weak but preserves some of our first teasers for Peterborough away.

Don't think we'll be able to play kids who aren't "of professional standing" just yet, as Rooney said post match on Sat. 

1 hour ago, Sparkle said:

We are an exciting proposition right now because we have something to play for and zero income is zero wages and currently he hasn’t got a job 

Mel said that when he signed Huddlestone from Hull he was our first 40k a week player I believe. 
This lad was there at roughly the same time and was a key man for them. Not saying he was on the same, could’ve been more or less. 
He is currently out of contract but he isn’t just going to take the first thing offered to him. If he and his agent think he can get 7k+ a week (for example), he isn’t going to take 4.5k this early. He can obviously sign at any point as a free agent. 
It really isn’t as simple as he’s unemployed now so he’ll take anything.

20 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Have you been to Poland not to mention have you been to England £4,500 per week is a hell of a lot of money especially when your income is zero - not to mention Derby county is one of the biggest clubs in England and bigger I would say than your Hull city WBA that he has played for and that’s not being disrespectful to those clubs 

I have been to Poland. Twice actually. God knows what that has to do with anything...

If I recall, he moved to West Brom for around 4 million in a summer where the baggies were spending big, and then were promoted, having joined Premier League Hull for around 6 million a couple of years previous.

4.5k/week is a low wage for a high end championship/low end premier league player, that is a fact, so he'd be taking a cut from his last contract to join. He's older than he was so would be taking a cut anywhere in England, the difference is just how big a cut he would take and whether he'd have better offers elsewhere. 

We are not an exciting prospect right now, and I doubt he gives a toss about the "size" of the football club he joins. If someone offers over what we are allowed to offer, he won't be coming here. Hence why I said it was unlikely (not impossible). 

Roos 7

Byrne 5

Forsyth 6

Davies 6

Stearman 6

Bird 5

Shinnie 6

Watson 5

Lawrence 6

Jozwiak 5

Kazim 5

Sibley 6

Ebosele 5

Sorry to ruin the fun but he’ll have been on big wages for a while now. Doubt he’d accept 4.5k a week, and football insider has proven as reliable as a Connor Sammon over the years. 

Would be hard to say no if we can get what we paid for him, but I'm not sure we can replace him with a free transfer on 5k a week. 

I'd like to try with him for another year, clearly a good player in there but just hasn't worked at Derby. Seems to play very narrow for Derby but hugs the touchline for Poland, maybe that explains why we can't get a tune out of him. 

That was as good as we can expect for now. Lacking quality but not lacking effort and determination, which is something we've lacked for a while. I hope Rooney has instilled an "us against the world" mentality into the players and we continue like this. A couple more additions (god knows how that will happen) and the great escape could be on. COYR. 

1 minute ago, DCFC1388 said:

People need to realise this isnt a choie of Stearman over Jagielka, a 3rd keeper over a striker etc - it will be we have signed the only free agents willing to accept 4.5k or lower.

 

There are more than 9 players out of contract in world football. It is not a direct choice like you say, but you have to question the strategy of even looking at a keeper when we should have been working on centre backs and strikers. 

What was the point in looking at a load of players if we weren't allowed to offer them the wages they want? It's simply bad management of a football club. 

Just now, brady1993 said:

And also spent the bulk of the preseason time on them.....

Davies signing is something at least but with Stearman... I'd rather just give Cashin a shot 

Yes but we already have Cashin so we can still give him a shot?

You need more than two centrebacks. 

Davies and Stearman to start every game this season then. Christ. 

We have to be selling a keeper - borderline criminal negligence to sign a 3rd keeper when we can only sign 4 players. 

That's that then. 

It's evident who Nixon blames this all on - Morris. 

May have to agree with him for once. 

Might have walked by then if no one signs. 

If no signings happen isn't there a chance we only use players "of professional standing" on Saturday so we can possibly get some others signed before the next game. 

David Marshall commanding the backline from centreback. 

Regardless of what people may or may not think about the rest of the guardian, their football coverage is among the - if not the - best (online and in print). It's a bit odd to deprive yourself of the football stuff because you don't like what Owen Jones said on page 5. 

280 mins for Fozzy. Surely he’s due a rest for next week Wayne?

Ebosele lifetime contract please. 

Panenka-ing a non-league side is exactly the poohousery I want from my captain.