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I mean, we have no centrebacks and can't buy any. Not sure what else we can expect. 

That said, Stearman is terrible. At least Jagielka had a few games in the premier league last season. 

Also is there any update on Ibe? I've been trying to keep out of the Derby news loop since the last game of the season for my own sanity. Regardless of his physical/mental state he may have to be involved by default. 

Can we even sign players at the moment? Thought there was some form of embargo which wont be lifted until all the off-the-pitch stuff is sorted. Presumably that won't be until after the season starts so some of these starting 11s may actual be what we see. 

Seems like with our ability to appeal the appeal (i think) that the worst case scenario is a points deduction next season. Best case we get cleared, or just a fine. 

John Percy - possibly the most reliable reporter on Derby - talking about a threat of insolvency if we go down. 

It is truly incredible how Mel managed (and still does to some extent) to keep lots of fans onside. 

(these are just my thoughts on the matter, which aren't worth any more than anyone else's - i'm not looking to start a political debate on a Derby fans forum!).

I studied a bit about Vox at Uni a few years ago. Obviously, i'm not an expert on Spanish politics, but I can say that his association with them does concern me, and I do think some things are bigger than football. There isn't really an exact UK equivalent - their views are far more extreme than UKIP but they aren't proponents of fascism like the NF or BNP. 

A quick skim of the internet revealed that their leader called for another Reconquista of the Muslim population in Spain in 2019 - for anyone who knows their Spanish history, this is pretty awful. 

I've seen some people point out that there wasn't this much outrage over the Shiekh, which is fair, but I would say this is slightly different in that we know for a fact how Alonso has been involved politically. The Shiekh's history was as unclear as his takeover attempt was.

I've also seen a few 'keep politics out of football', or 'its not his politics that matters' posts. I respect that for some, it is simple to separate the morality of happenings around football from the sport itself. But for me, and presumably others, it isnt that simple and these things matter. The club represents the fans and the city, meaning that in a way the owner does too.

The sad thing is, it really doesn't matter if we are concerned or not. This appears to be going ahead and that's that. All we can hope is that he keeps whatever views he has out of Derby.

yes please

All of these must be a massive smokescreen for Dursun to be announced 1 minute after the deadline closes

Good luck to the lad, an amazing opportunity for him and his family. Hopefully we have some sell on clauses. 

I wouldn't be too down on this. At 16 his career could still go either way. This is how the top clubs scoop up the best talent, they scoop up all the talent and some of them become stars. They offer fees to clubs like us which are more appealing than the gamble that he will be good. Similar to Delap. Moreover, if he does become world class we will get a fee down the line - there's a cap on how much we could sell him for in two years time simply because we are in the championship and he can only develop so far. Its also an excellent opportunity for the lad himself to develop under the best coaches in the world with the best facilities in the world. 

And we're skint. 

               Marshall

Byrne Bielik Clarke Buchanan

           Bird Rooney

Jozwiak Lawrence Ibe

              Waghorn

Just now, Curtains said:

Maybe yes .

To be honest Chelsea have played quite well though. 

They played well first few minutes. Not sure you can say anyone has played well at 4-0 down. If such quality players had played well, they wouldn't be 4-0 down. 

Just now, Curtains said:

Kante didn’t stop that one did he 

Might've helped with the other three

Not starting Kante is Lampard's biggest mistake since his last professional game and not starting Marriott.