Woodley Ram

1-0 Rams Collins FRGS

16 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Also Dobbin, Stearman, part season loanees (Osula, White and Springett), and youngster who have been released or loaned out (Oduroh, Cybulski, Aghatise)

yep agree, but we do have a bigger budget this year, its just spend within our means budget rather than a Manic Mel approach

9 hours ago, Eoghan1884 said:

Some Numpties online think Shrewsbury are going to sign James Collins on loan 😂😂

He is off to Saudi..........I spoke to my travel agent this morning.............................................................. ......2 weeks all inclusive apparently  

10 hours ago, rammieib said:

Does it feel like our budget is less than last year?

Out go Knight, Davies, Chester, Didzy, Roberts (If we were contributing anything) plus the other loans.

In come Vickers, Nelson, Sonny, Wilson, Washington, Elder, Ward.

There is a chance to me that the combined wages there are pretty much equal however, we have raised money and some of this is allowed for reinvestment. 

I can only guess right now that literally no one is available or wants to play L1 football.

 

so out go 4 (Roberts was a loan) and in come 7 and we want more, thats not bad for a reduced budget

15 minutes ago, Andicis said:

Looking at Reading - Andy Carroll is clearly a good striker. 9 championship goals is a pretty solid return from last season. Is prone to an injury though. James Collins had a better league one minutes per goal than Sam Smith last season. Azeez and Knibbs don't contribute with too many goals.

Clearly Alfie May is a good striker at this level off the back of a great season. Leaburn is pretty decent too. Aneke has had a few good seasons at league one before, though not so good in more recent years. 

With Collins looking in good form in preseason, with Washington and Mendez-Laing I think we've got a pretty competitive front line. If we get one or two more arguably we have more goals in our attack. 

Sam Smith has a long term injury and Carroll hasnt really had a pre season due to injury. I don't fancy Reading given there ongoing issues and lack of players.

Charlton seem to have recruited well, but lets see I don't think we have the worst forward line in L1. 

5 hours ago, Mihangel said:

Just to offer a slightly different angle - Some comments need calling out as absurd, perhaps we could be more forensic and clinical about it but sometimes that's a bit difficult. The proliferation of ridiculous posts like the one in question make me want to avoid the board altogether. If I could be bothered to breakdown the post then I guess it would be thus but I think a STFU is more appropriate.

It's pretty obvious Warne couldn't attract a moth to a light - Obviously not true.

We're the biggest team in this League but have been reduced to scrabbling about in the dirt for castoffs. Not sure what biggest means or how it's relevant but we don't have the option to just splash money around because we are working to a very strict budget.

Pathetic state of affairs. No

Absolutly no issue with things being called out as long as its not in an insulting way. We are all have our opinions and yes some make me cringe. So yes call out and challenge but not with insults. I have been called out a few times for being correct, and don't have an issue with it. We all support the same team.

5 hours ago, Eddie said:

@sage, this is the sort of moronic comment I was referring to.

This is the sort of comment that stops people posting, you can disagree but this coercive control attitude is not good for the forum or the recipent who receives it. 

It smacks of you know best.

Someone disgreed with me yesterday, which is fine but the comment moronic is out of order to a person who supports the same team as you.

14 minutes ago, Srg said:

This level of what? A game of Bridge at the welfare?

ay young man that Bridge stuff is serious

We should win this one, Wigan are a mess at the moment, I actually feel for them. I dont expect to score many, would probably go for a 1-0 Rams 

5 minutes ago, Big Trav said:

Sounds as if Rhoades deal of off then, I was told Billy Sharp and Waggy will sign if we are ‘really desperate’ by the sounds of it, we’re starting to go pretty far down the list for strikers, also been told to expect 4-5 more players in the rest of the window. My guesses would be a striker (or 2 depending on Dej) a creative 10, a destroyer in midfield, and a left wing back 

thanks. do you think they will be loans BT?  Bar Sharp (god I hope not) and Waggy?

4 minutes ago, Millenniumram said:

Been informed today that Rhodes was due in for a medical yesterday but didn’t show. 99% certain that’s what Warne is on about with people “lying in football”.

He can go swivel for all I care. Been crap for years and messes a club like Derby around. Not the sort of character I want here. Banker.

probably had a better offer. Forest for instance, they sign players for lots of money and never play them

3 minutes ago, TomTom92 said:

Funny that, almost like we sold one of our main central midfielders. 
 
My arsiness is aimed at PW and not you btw.

Not sure if he had much choice with either that were sold.

5 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

 

Mine is working currently and had no trouble paying the fiver a few mins ago. Try logging out and back in? The old “off and on” IT fix 

the bank are rejecting the payment because its states 0.00,,,,,,

1 minute ago, wixman1884 said:

yeah i just dropped like $25 for the month. payment went through but game is offline

same with audio

4 minutes ago, wixman1884 said:

is the stream working for anyone? says it's offline for me

yes me too, states cost is 5, but rejects payment

22 minutes ago, ram59 said:

Transfer fees aren't normally paid over the length of the contract, especially the smaller ones. The amortisation of their value on the books is now spread over the length of the contract. 

The problem with some of these players that haven't signed like May, is that the wages they are demanding is way above what we value them at. We're not the MM Derby whereby we pay whatever the player demands.

they are, but i do agree with re smaller ones

35 minutes ago, Carnero said:

That's not what Warne said at all, it is being misconstrued by some people, either deliberately or otherwise.

He actually said that there was a certain amount of room left in his budget and he wants more 3 players (LWB, "10", "9"), but if he spent a transfer fee of say £300,000+ coupled with the wages for this player then he'd only be able bring in 1 or 2.

For some context, let's say there's £1.2m left in the budget for this season, this would mean that we could bring in 3 x players on frees/loans at £8k a week each.

But if we paid £400,000 for a player we now have £800,000 left in the budget which means we can only afford to pay 2 x players at £8k a week each.

This is basic business logic.

I'm glad we've set a budget for the playing squad and are sticking to it, it's long overdue.

I like the maths but transfer fees are paid (normally) over the term of the contract. So 300k over 3 years = 100k, you also need to add on Agents fees etc. But yes frees are the way to go.  It has been said by many that strikers are costing a lot at the moment and Warne (my opinion) will not be panicked into spending what he considers os over the top. 

I note a lot of people have been vocal about Charlton and Reading. Charlton look like they have brought in some decent striker talent, but there must be a reason why Warne has not signed them. It feels like Charlton are taking a bit of a financial gamble and whilst they have strikers, what about the rest of their team, is it up to it?

Reading are panicking and I bet they pushed the boat out to secure Lewis Wing.

I think we will get a perm striker in but perhaps the rest will be loans, and this year we will be able to get a better quality of loans 

13 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said:

Keane went to Preston

aaaah, wonder why he is still on their website

1 hour ago, oodledoodle said:

I get what you're saying, but we lost pretty much an entire championship squad (never mind the youth talent) thanks to the EFL and Morris. I'd have no shame picking up these players if the chance arose, and I'd lose no sleep over it.

Don't get me wrong neither do I with Reading or Wigan. I'm just saying have they broken a rule with what they have done. If yes then fine lets sign some. If no then the opposite.

Saying that Wigan are a different case, they have lost two due to contract breaches, they could lose more. I would definatly go for Keane and Wyke 

33 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

Really? Was just reading this article that says they’re interested but at around £500k with Exeter holding out for £1m.

However, I do agree they’re putting a good squad together. That’s what’s always annoyed me when people (not you) are talking down the other sides in this league, there will be other clubs pushing for promotion too, Charlton look to be one of them.

we know what happens when you overspend, I trust in Warnes approach

1 hour ago, Big Trav said:

Readings Signings potentially being de-registered by EFL, Lewis Wing and Sam Smith anybody? 

IF they have signed the players as per the rules then that is unfair on Reading and the players who have signed legally binding contracts. 

I live just outside Reading and have no liking for them, horrible and ignorant group of people. But fair is fair 

37 minutes ago, Mihangel said:

I'm very very rarely one to defend the EFL but I'm not sure you can sanction a club based whether they may or may not meet a future payment. That said, and too your broader point, they should be all over them like a rash now they've missed yet another payment. It's entirely unfair when you compare what happened to us.

Agree, all we can ask of the EFL is consistency. In Readings case it would be consistency not with us, but with Wigan for the failure to pay wages and regulations re missing HMRC payments. our issue revolved around admin and we we receive -12 points. Reading are not in administration so its diffrent. 

They do need to sort Reading out for the sake of Reading 

2 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

I agree with that for sure. I'm not sure we need to fixate on a '25 goal a season' striker though as some fans (not aimed at you) seem to. It's obvious we aren't spending that sort of money so some fans are going to be feeling let down whoever we get in.

I agree with you, I think Warne has been given a budget that negates going into the red. That means compared with most we have a good budget. If clubs want to spend more than they earn they will bid for players that we cannot. Warne must balance his budget between blowing lots on a 15-20 goal striker (Didzys season was a one off, he never got close to 25 goals at his previous clubs). His other option is to be more pragmatic and use the funds for wages. As been said by him and loads of others, strikers cost and seem to be at a premium this year.

To be honest the striker situation is not my biggest concern, it the creator that we are missing, the one who on a bad day, with the bus parked and create a goal.  

12 hours ago, BaaLocks said:

SIlly summer season - how about a most hated Derby XI. Not necessarily the worst, but the team the fans just didn't like. For example, Francois Grenet, Mikkel Beck were just rubbish. It's the ones who got the boos, or at least a very muffled reaction, when their name was announced. And it has to be while they were with Derby - not because they went off to Leeds or wherever.

I'll kick us off (and try not to just make it a load of ex-Forest players, I could easily fill this with Paterson, Dowell, Tyson etc). Has to be players who really got on the wrong side of the fans):

 

Chairman: Mel Morris / Robert Maxwell job share

Manager: Tommy Docherty

Assistant Manager: Billy Davies

Director Of Football: Sam Rush

 

1: Jon Middleton

2: Tyrone Mears

3: Stephan Schnoor

4: Jacob Butterfield

5: Richard Keogh

6: Kenny Burns

7: Gary Teale

8: Don Masson

9: Rob Earnshaw

10: Mason Bennett

11: John Robertson

 

Subs:

- John McGovern

- Vic Moreland

- Robbie Savage

- Fabrizio Ravanelli

 

There you go, that's a pretty unpopular team to go watch.

why Ravanelli?, used to visit children in hospital without being asked and without the press being there. Waited years for his wages to be paid??????

17 minutes ago, RamDotFi said:

True, they did really well with loans last season and no doubt there were substantial loan fees involved.

I think we will pay loan fees this season and get a better quality of loan player. Keep the faith, we will be challenging for the top 2