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Nuwtfly

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    Nuwtfly reacted to Kernow in The Administration Thread   
    I have no idea how much he has. You could Google it, but again it wouldn't necessarily tell us an accurate figure. In 2018 he was listed as being worth £252mil, how accurate that is I have no idea, but my hypothesis for the deal, and his motivation, is this...
    Whoever buys Derby County will be buying a club that has to operate under restrictions for the next couple of years at least. That includes how much we can spend on wages and transfer fees. In League One, in theory, it should mean that with our revenue we will be able to be self-sufficient. We can start to look to build again without having the possibility of forking out extortionate amounts. We can give longer contracts than 12 months to players, so if we can recruit another Luke Plange or Malcolm Ebiowei, like we have managed to do whilst already under restrictions, then they aren't going to be poached off of us without our say so. If we choose to sell them, we get a fee to benefit us.
    Meanwhile, while we're repairing ourselves and improving, we become much more of an attractive prospect to a more ambitious buyer. We won't have the debts, we won't have the admin fees, we won't have a loan against Pride Park that essentially blocks any sale for however long.
    If Clowes doesn't have the funds to keep us beyond our restricted period, I doubt he'd have anywhere near as much trouble selling us. And comparatively, he would still own a stadium that he's bought for a pretty decent price, and could use his business expertise to make a profit on. He also would have saved the Club he's loved his whole life without denting his *reported* net worth much at all.
    I think if Clowes wanted the Club for himself indefinitely, he would have entered the game a lot sooner. But he's in because Derby County dying is simply not an option, and if spending a portion of his wealth on us for a couple of years whilst we heal is the price it costs, then I think he's only doing what 95% of us would also do if we had his level of wealth.
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from JimmyDCFC1 in The Administration Thread   
    Totally agree with you, low budget and sustainable has got to be the way forward for us after everything that’s come. In a way, it’s probably got to shadow the Nigel Clough years. 
    Maybe he could be persuaded back in some capacity? Even if it’s just to cause a meltdown on this forum. 
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from Animal is a Ram in The Administration Thread   
    You obviously haven’t been on this forum for very long
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    Nuwtfly reacted to curb in The Administration Thread   
    At this point in the process, yes. If he’s got enough to save us from the imminent disaster that is liquidation, then anything else is a bonus. How would you feel if you went into Curry’s to buy a telly and they asked to see your bank account to make sure you can afford to fund Sky TV and Netflix for the next ten years?
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    Nuwtfly reacted to uttoxram75 in The Administration Thread   
    Go and research yourself if you really want to know what he's worth. 
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from uttoxram75 in The Administration Thread   
    I suspect you may be right! Part of the reason I’m asking the question is to try and gleam whether this is long/short term!
    Absolutely agree that wealth does not equal success, that is proven time and time again in football. In fact, I don’t actually disagree with anything in your post. But you haven’t really answered my question. I just want to get a picture of what we can expect from this guy in terms of funding. Is he capable of building a squad to push for promotion back to the Championship? Could he sustain us if we got promoted? Or should we expect nothing but survival in the here and how? Just wondering. 
    No sure where you’ve gleamed that from. I’m just asking the question. I wouldn’t need to ask that question if it was Mike Ashley, he is worth over a billion. I just want to understand what this guy is working with, that’s all.
    The days of spending sprees are over for the entire of the 72 I think! And rightly so. Don’t get me started on that, though! 
    Surely he must do, right? Otherwise he wouldn’t be getting into this? There’s no guarantee he will be able to just sell us after a year or two. We’ve all learnt how hard it is to sell a football club successfully ?
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    Nuwtfly reacted to Caerphilly Ram in The Administration Thread   
    His estimated net worth when featured on the 2018 Rich List was £252million pounds. That figure is likely to have changed in the 4 years since, maybe increased or decreased, only he and his accountant will know that actual figure. 
    It has been suggested based on media reports and historic examples of clubs exiting administration (as frustratingly the EFL regs don’t include published processes for post insolvency events) that we will be subject to restrictions as to how much we can spend on transfer fees (if anything) and wages in line with an agreed business plan between the new owner and the league. Which makes the general consensus, whoever takes the club on will not be able to immediately bankroll an assault on the leagues and we have to temper our expectations accordingly. What that could mean is Clowes is able to acquire the club, settle 100% of football debts, 25p in the pound to other creditors then steady the ship and build sensibly and gradually towards promotion with a sustainable model. Utilising the academy, effective recruitment and the large revenue opportunities presented by our fandom to build wealth within the club and not throw good money after bad like Mr Morris before.
    I’d also add, let’s wait for the takeover to happen and I suspect he will tell us what his plan is. Hopefully the days of us wildly speculating in the absence of solid info and communication are numbered. The Clowes statement was mature and informative in my view, delivered in the right way once there was something to share, I’m hoping that will be the case moving forward. 
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from Derby4Me in The Administration Thread   
    Apologies if this has been stated before…
    Does anyone know roughly how much Clowes / the specific group that are attempting to buy the club are worth? How much money they have in comparison to say Mel Morris / Mike Ashley?
    Its fairytale stuff for a fan and local guy to buy your club (heard that somewhere before) but can he actually afford this?
    And by afford I mean pay off debts / buy an entire new squad / a new coaching team / new recruitment department / all the other never ending bills that come with owning a money guzzling football club in 2022?
    Its all well and good saying: it doesn’t matter how much he has as long as he runs us properly, but that is a very unrealistic way of looking at this. 
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    Nuwtfly reacted to ThePrisoner in Rooney leaves   
    It’s cause no one told them life was gonna be this way. 
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    Nuwtfly reacted to Jubbs in New manager, who do you want?   
    Have you seen any of the We Are Derby docuseries on RamsTV? I think there's where a lot of people, including myself, have got this idea about Rosenior being the brains behind Rooney. He seemed to be the one on the training ground taking charge of the sessions and seemed to be the lead when they discussed tactics.
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong in New manager, who do you want?   
    Rosenior talks a really good game. I will be fascinated to see what's different with him in charge, as opposed to Rooney.
    I have seen a lot of people suggest that he was the brains behind the previous coaching ensemble. I am not sure what this is actually based on, other than perhaps how well he comes across in interviews and maybe an inherent assumption in football that the No.2 is somehow the brains rather than the brass.
    He is certainly the easiest appointment. Is it the safest, though? First job? League One? Whole new squad? Could be a very tricky one indeed. I think we arguably need a more experienced pair of hands for this league, but appreciate that we're not in a position to be picky.
    I also would of thought that a new owner would like his own man in charge. Be interested to see how long LR gets if things don't start well.
    Blackpool obviously liked the idea of appointing LR, and then suddenly didn't after interviewing him. I wonder why.
    Good luck, Liam. You are going to need it. 
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    Nuwtfly reacted to ollycutts1982 in New manager, who do you want?   
    I saw Bucko at a footy tournament today and asked him if he’d applied. His response was ‘if I’d won a few at Burton I might have’. ?? top bloke. 
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from Tamworthram in New manager, who do you want?   
    The same reason everyone has to go into work on Monday 
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from Mick Brolly in New manager, who do you want?   
    The same reason everyone has to go into work on Monday 
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    Nuwtfly reacted to EtoileSportiveDeDerby in New manager, who do you want?   
    If we werent in such perilous situation, i would go for a very left field suggestion, Emma Hayes, proven manager at the highest level and a winner. when on the tellybox as a pundit, she's very good, clearly knows what she's on about unlike the majority of her male conterparts.
    The reason i say perilous is because if the "experiment" did not work out, it's never been done in this country afaik, the fact that we are in such a bad way before the appointment of a female boss may be somewhat forgotten and would not give the new gaffer a level playing field. 
     
     
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from rynny in Rooney leaves   
    This is a really good thing for us. I know it doesn't feel like it right now, but it is.
    We can go into next season with a completely clean slate. New owner. New manager. New players. Fresh start. Exactly what this club needs really after two years of straight trauma.
    As for Wayne Rooney: yes, he did admirably last season. He could of walked away many times, sure. He didn't. You have to ask yourself why now, though. 
    Was it our of "loyalty" ?
    If that was the case - why leave now? Right before the beginning of the new season? Right as the administration nears its end?
    Maybe because his choice of owner (he made no secret of this), who was looking to give his agent a role on our board (what?!) is now out of the picture? 
    I'm not sad AT ALL to see the guy that completely derailed any chance Cocu ever had gone. His whole appointment was a sorry affair, as was the stinking 32 Red deal that brought him here in the first place. Bringing in Wayne Rooney was Morris' last great error, and I'm glad to see the last of his mistakes gone. 
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from I Am Sheep in New manager, who do you want?   
    One celebrity circus to the next.
    At least Rooney had a likability factor (for some). John Terry is a loathsome character. That Anton Ferdinand documentary was a tough watch. 
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from i-Ram in Rooney leaves   
    Thank god that's over.
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    Nuwtfly reacted to RoyMac5 in Rooney leaves   
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from Wolfie20 in New manager, who do you want?   
    Only one man can save us now (and it's not Pep):
     
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from Ramarena in Rooney leaves   
    And he probably will get interviewed for it - he'd arguably be the easiest appointment to make, and I wouldn't be surprised if they make it.
    I just personally think we'd be best to leave all facets of the trauma of the last two years behind us. Rooney, Rosenior, Tom Lawrence, they can all go for me.
    Give a new owner his choice of new manager and let that new manager build a whole new squad.
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from Jayram in Rooney leaves   
    He just tried to jump ship to Blackpool. He should follow Wayne out the door.
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from BPV in Rooney leaves   
    And he probably will get interviewed for it - he'd arguably be the easiest appointment to make, and I wouldn't be surprised if they make it.
    I just personally think we'd be best to leave all facets of the trauma of the last two years behind us. Rooney, Rosenior, Tom Lawrence, they can all go for me.
    Give a new owner his choice of new manager and let that new manager build a whole new squad.
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from Kathcairns in New manager, who do you want?   
    One celebrity circus to the next.
    At least Rooney had a likability factor (for some). John Terry is a loathsome character. That Anton Ferdinand documentary was a tough watch. 
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    Nuwtfly got a reaction from kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong in Rooney leaves   
    And he probably will get interviewed for it - he'd arguably be the easiest appointment to make, and I wouldn't be surprised if they make it.
    I just personally think we'd be best to leave all facets of the trauma of the last two years behind us. Rooney, Rosenior, Tom Lawrence, they can all go for me.
    Give a new owner his choice of new manager and let that new manager build a whole new squad.
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