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Sorry, I have to take issue with your point no.2, I can’t remember Newcastle ever playing in a European Cup Semi Final ?

Sorry, I have to take issue with your point no.2, I can’t remember Newcastle ever playing in a European Cup Semi Final ?

Can’t you just be grateful that we’ve got a club to support, and worry about the Champions League push when we’ve stabilised a bit? Hmm?

Can’t you just be grateful that we’ve got a club to support, and worry about the Champions League push when we’ve stabilised a bit? Hmm?

I have no idea how much he has. You could Google it, but again it wouldn't necessarily tell us an accurate figure. In 2018 he was listed as being worth £252mil, how accurate that is I have no idea, but my hypothesis for the deal, and his motivation, is this...
Whoever buys Derby County will be buying a club that has to operate under restrictions for the next couple of years at least. That includes how much we can spend on wages and transfer fees. In League One, in theory, it should mean that with our revenue we will be able to be self-sufficient. We can start to look to build again without having the possibility of forking out extortionate amounts. We can give longer contracts than 12 months to players, so if we can recruit another Luke Plange or Malcolm Ebiowei, like we have managed to do whilst already under restrictions, then they aren't going to be poached off of us without our say so. If we choose to sell them, we get a fee to benefit us.
Meanwhile, while we're repairing ourselves and improving, we become much more of an attractive prospect to a more ambitious buyer. We won't have the debts, we won't have the admin fees, we won't have a loan against Pride Park that essentially blocks any sale for however long.
If Clowes doesn't have the funds to keep us beyond our restricted period, I doubt he'd have anywhere near as much trouble selling us. And comparatively, he would still own a stadium that he's bought for a pretty decent price, and could use his business expertise to make a profit on. He also would have saved the Club he's loved his whole life without denting his *reported* net worth much at all.
I think if Clowes wanted the Club for himself indefinitely, he would have entered the game a lot sooner. But he's in because Derby County dying is simply not an option, and if spending a portion of his wealth on us for a couple of years whilst we heal is the price it costs, then I think he's only doing what 95% of us would also do if we had his level of wealth.

Can’t you just be grateful that we’ve got a club to support, and worry about the Champions League push when we’ve stabilised a bit? Hmm?

Can’t you just be grateful that we’ve got a club to support, and worry about the Champions League push when we’ve stabilised a bit? Hmm?

At this point in the process, yes. If he’s got enough to save us from the imminent disaster that is liquidation, then anything else is a bonus. How would you feel if you went into Curry’s to buy a telly and they asked to see your bank account to make sure you can afford to fund Sky TV and Netflix for the next ten years?

Can’t you just be grateful that we’ve got a club to support, and worry about the Champions League push when we’ve stabilised a bit? Hmm?

At this point in the process, yes. If he’s got enough to save us from the imminent disaster that is liquidation, then anything else is a bonus. How would you feel if you went into Curry’s to buy a telly and they asked to see your bank account to make sure you can afford to fund Sky TV and Netflix for the next ten years?

Can’t you just be grateful that we’ve got a club to support, and worry about the Champions League push when we’ve stabilised a bit? Hmm?

Can’t you just be grateful that we’ve got a club to support, and worry about the Champions League push when we’ve stabilised a bit? Hmm?

It would be good once we are out of it, to keep the pressure on the EFL and make them pay for their incompetence. 

We were all cheering about the wages being paid so it’s obviously our fault.

We were all cheering about the wages being paid so it’s obviously our fault.

I don’t think anyone can say that having a single owner works or a consortium works, there’s no easy formula for a club to use to get success. All our (relative) success has come from single ownerships, although it can also be argued that after each spell of success it was the single ownership that made it short lived. The last time Appleby was in charge I thought we struggled for a long time because of the way the consortium was set up, in that investment had to be drip fed in because no one investor could put in more than the others! Although GSE did leave the club in a much better state than when they took over, and it was incredibly bad luck that we don’t make it to the Prem at the end of their spell in charge.
All I was saying was that I couldn’t see how it would work with technically two owners, although if DC wants to disappear back into the background and be one of GSW’s main investors then I guess that would make sense.
Im not in any way criticising, if DC pulls off the ownership and allows us to start over I will be eternally grateful, it’s going to be an interesting few months, we can only hope for the best, and I won’t be pre-judging whatever ownership model we end up with, but take it on its own merit.

They’ll be that gutted we’ve been saved, what they going to talk about now?
It’s not like anything interesting ever happens at Bristol City.

They’ll be that gutted we’ve been saved, what they going to talk about now?
It’s not like anything interesting ever happens at Bristol City.

They’ll be that gutted we’ve been saved, what they going to talk about now?
It’s not like anything interesting ever happens at Bristol City.

I don’t think anyone can say that having a single owner works or a consortium works, there’s no easy formula for a club to use to get success. All our (relative) success has come from single ownerships, although it can also be argued that after each spell of success it was the single ownership that made it short lived. The last time Appleby was in charge I thought we struggled for a long time because of the way the consortium was set up, in that investment had to be drip fed in because no one investor could put in more than the others! Although GSE did leave the club in a much better state than when they took over, and it was incredibly bad luck that we don’t make it to the Prem at the end of their spell in charge.
All I was saying was that I couldn’t see how it would work with technically two owners, although if DC wants to disappear back into the background and be one of GSW’s main investors then I guess that would make sense.
Im not in any way criticising, if DC pulls off the ownership and allows us to start over I will be eternally grateful, it’s going to be an interesting few months, we can only hope for the best, and I won’t be pre-judging whatever ownership model we end up with, but take it on its own merit.

So he's trying to instigate a BAFO from Ashley by buying the stadium that Ashley is adamant he wants as part of the deal? And even were this the case, is it a given that with Ashley having tried and failed to lowball Morris on PP, that DC would be happy to accept a £2 to £3 million hit on his newly acquired asset simply to allow a man with 10 times his net worth to get it on the cheap?
And how could he have been more aggressive in getting PB status when exclusivity sat with Kirchner? Seems to me he's been aggressive enough since that exclusivity was rescinded. I think the question you've obviously overlooked is clearly why has Ashley not been more aggressive?

DC is the man who has stepped up to save Derby County, providing a short term loan to the club and taking the ground from MM's hands. Let's forget about MA now, he had his chance...
 

So, while Mike Ashley was swinging his bat around on the sidelines, David Clowes has padded up, gone out to the crease and smashed a six off the first ball. 

So, while Mike Ashley was swinging his bat around on the sidelines, David Clowes has padded up, gone out to the crease and smashed a six off the first ball. 

So, while Mike Ashley was swinging his bat around on the sidelines, David Clowes has padded up, gone out to the crease and smashed a six off the first ball.