Mucker1884

I have vaped for about 12 years after I gave up smoking, and have never seen the point of 'cloud chasing'. I did have one of the big sub-ohm things, but when we were broken into last year, it was one of the things that was stolen. I replaced it with a little vape pen which delivers my 'hit' and doesn't generate its own weather systems. Far better for me - and less intrusive to others.

Us?

Internet’s back boys. What have I missed..

Muckers sombreros were due to be worn
but his efforts were all forlorn
no bugger turned up in a hat
made mucker look a proper t wat
 

Over the past few days, those who shall remain nameless have been bombarded with pointy fingers and raised eyebrows for taking a flight from EMA to Blackpool Away.
Also, there are a number of companies who have lost varying amounts of income, solely due to Derby County FC "not being able to afford to pay their bills".
Now, imagine the anger and accusations that would be aimed at Derby County FC, if they now decide to switch on the extremely expensive heating, to heat a non-insulated semi-outdoor structure, in order to satisfy a few selfish individuals who are (or ought to be) otherwise dressed for cold, outdoor temperatures.
When you've imagined that... have a cup of Bovril, then imagine some more, as it'll be much worse than you first imagined!  ?
 

Going on up to the spirit in the sky,
Gonna see Clough and Dave Mackay,
Gonna reminisce and have some fun,
about the 2 league titles that we won.
Bert Turner scoring between all four sticks,
In our Cup win, in '46.
And the best of all for a Ram,
Was to lift The Shield against West Ham.
 

Old thread, but I just saw a letter signed by General Secretary Stuart Webb and dated March 1979, how Derby County Football Club Limited was interested of arranging trial with Finnish footballing legend Atik Ismail. As those days were before my time, I've only heard how darn good he was.
 
Unfortunately from Derby's part, he spoke only two words of English (yes and no) and decided against the move to England. Here's his short English wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atik_Ismail and only half decent video clip of his winning goal against Liverpool 1982. That Pool team was quite impressive at the time wtih Rush, Dalglish, Souness & co:
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Over the past few days, those who shall remain nameless have been bombarded with pointy fingers and raised eyebrows for taking a flight from EMA to Blackpool Away.
Also, there are a number of companies who have lost varying amounts of income, solely due to Derby County FC "not being able to afford to pay their bills".
Now, imagine the anger and accusations that would be aimed at Derby County FC, if they now decide to switch on the extremely expensive heating, to heat a non-insulated semi-outdoor structure, in order to satisfy a few selfish individuals who are (or ought to be) otherwise dressed for cold, outdoor temperatures.
When you've imagined that... have a cup of Bovril, then imagine some more, as it'll be much worse than you first imagined!  ?
 

Coming out onto Wembley way,  we saw West ham run away, battered them of and on the field and came home with the charity shield.  

Wycombe, is our next away game after PV and tickets should be on sale soon. Sheffield Wednesday’s total allocation for this is 2,837.
Interestingly they have a family section for away fans where persistent standing is not allowed, as apposed to the rest of the away section where persistent standing is not allowed, but it is really.?

Your seats been put into storage.?

It means "Fixed That For You", as I changed some words in his post.
 
No need to sigh mate.  I changed the words to @i-Ram's post, not yours.  You explained yourself very well.  ?

No mate.  It was defo just a car park.  Stop making stuff up!  ?

Agreed, there are pros and cons to bringing everyone back, I personally prefer to see a quick player left up front, but recent results are hard to argue against. I would have thought that not leaving someone up would mean that we couldn't clear our lines properly, but MK had everyone back when they scored from our corner.

Not the most family orientated joke there.
Perhaps we need a cigarette filter?

 
 

I'd not argue with you final paragraph.  It's been well over a decade (probably closer to two?) since I was last there, and I really don't recall how good... or not... the stewarding was back then.
 
However:
How clear is the signage when you're in a large crowd?
From the few pics I've seen, it appears to be as clear as it needs to be?  Above head height.  Clearly written (Seat Numbers), and with directional arrows to boot!
I was at the back of the stand for my first/only trip to Wembley (v Villa).  Ramps, stairs, along concourses, left here, right there... and more stairs into the seated area.  Boom!  Nailed it first time!  Go me!  
How do we manage getting through airports and railway stations that we may have never been to before, or they've been done up to a point where they are unrecognisable from your last visit?  I've never gone to gate B, when my info states gate A!  
I'm no world traveller (sadly!), but I've coped admirably at Malaga & Schiphol airports to name just two.  Even coped with the Train station next door to Schiphol... and Covent Garden Tube, come to think of it.
Hotel rooms?
The only time I can recall getting lost (when the info has been available) was when I was looking for a classroom at Wilmorton College... Turns out I was meant to be at the Normo Road site!  ?  (That's a very long and boring story, but trust me, I have a perfectly acceptable excuse, even for that!) ?
 
I don't see the problem coming from people wanting to stand wherever they like.  It seems quite obvious to me that the issue to poor design and layout of the stand and the approach to it.
(I almost misinterpreted the first sentence, but I think I understand what you are saying, with the two sentences combined!)
It is clear from the pics that some are doing just that... going through the tunnel, then stopping!  Dead!  In their tracks!  Standing on the central aisle.  At the mouth of the tunnel.  Wantonly oblivious to the fact that there are more folk behind them wishing to take the same route, in a vain attempt to reach their allocated seating.
Yes, It's a pile up, but if those at the front keep moving, then those in the middle can keep moving, then those at the back can keep moving, then those stuck in the tunnel can keep moving!
OK, you could argue it is only the front 4 or 5 who are blocking the staircase/Aisle, and the rest are stuck with nowhere to go, but that still amounts to 4 or 5 people "standing where they want" (as opposed to dozens/scores?)
(This is not April 1989.  There are no pens.  No fencing.  No possibility of restricted areas becoming overcrowded, whilst other areas remain sparse.  This is one large area big enough to accommodate the allocated numbers).
That is not a design fault.  It is DNA (Yoof)!  It's evolution in reverse!  Stupidity?  Selfishness? Coke?  Booze?  I've no idea. But this is on the collective individuals endangering the innocent. 
This is 2023.  H&S has been sticking it's middle digit up our arses for nigh on 3 decades (Before that, it was just the little pinky!).  Are you seriously suggesting this stand fails from an H&S perspective, and yet is still allowed to remain operational?  And a stand with such horrific history?  Seriously?
I suppose you could argue "If it can go wrong, it is dangerous.  If accidents can happen, then that possibility must be eradicated (if practicable) or minimised to the max!  If the aisles can be blocked, then they must be widened and/or added to".
Fair comment.  Difficult to argue... except to say that every single football stadium needs to be closed with immediate effect.  Not one of them is 100% safe... particularly once human beings are let in!
Sometimes, humans just need to do the right/sensible/honourable/decent/thoughtful/considerate thing, and show some common sense and good manners!    
 
 

I bought one of those 3D TVs last week, brilliant it is. Fell asleep watching the Liverpool game, woke up and my wallet had gone. 

I'd not argue with you final paragraph.  It's been well over a decade (probably closer to two?) since I was last there, and I really don't recall how good... or not... the stewarding was back then.
 
However:
How clear is the signage when you're in a large crowd?
From the few pics I've seen, it appears to be as clear as it needs to be?  Above head height.  Clearly written (Seat Numbers), and with directional arrows to boot!
I was at the back of the stand for my first/only trip to Wembley (v Villa).  Ramps, stairs, along concourses, left here, right there... and more stairs into the seated area.  Boom!  Nailed it first time!  Go me!  
How do we manage getting through airports and railway stations that we may have never been to before, or they've been done up to a point where they are unrecognisable from your last visit?  I've never gone to gate B, when my info states gate A!  
I'm no world traveller (sadly!), but I've coped admirably at Malaga & Schiphol airports to name just two.  Even coped with the Train station next door to Schiphol... and Covent Garden Tube, come to think of it.
Hotel rooms?
The only time I can recall getting lost (when the info has been available) was when I was looking for a classroom at Wilmorton College... Turns out I was meant to be at the Normo Road site!  ?  (That's a very long and boring story, but trust me, I have a perfectly acceptable excuse, even for that!) ?
 
I don't see the problem coming from people wanting to stand wherever they like.  It seems quite obvious to me that the issue to poor design and layout of the stand and the approach to it.
(I almost misinterpreted the first sentence, but I think I understand what you are saying, with the two sentences combined!)
It is clear from the pics that some are doing just that... going through the tunnel, then stopping!  Dead!  In their tracks!  Standing on the central aisle.  At the mouth of the tunnel.  Wantonly oblivious to the fact that there are more folk behind them wishing to take the same route, in a vain attempt to reach their allocated seating.
Yes, It's a pile up, but if those at the front keep moving, then those in the middle can keep moving, then those at the back can keep moving, then those stuck in the tunnel can keep moving!
OK, you could argue it is only the front 4 or 5 who are blocking the staircase/Aisle, and the rest are stuck with nowhere to go, but that still amounts to 4 or 5 people "standing where they want" (as opposed to dozens/scores?)
(This is not April 1989.  There are no pens.  No fencing.  No possibility of restricted areas becoming overcrowded, whilst other areas remain sparse.  This is one large area big enough to accommodate the allocated numbers).
That is not a design fault.  It is DNA (Yoof)!  It's evolution in reverse!  Stupidity?  Selfishness? Coke?  Booze?  I've no idea. But this is on the collective individuals endangering the innocent. 
This is 2023.  H&S has been sticking it's middle digit up our arses for nigh on 3 decades (Before that, it was just the little pinky!).  Are you seriously suggesting this stand fails from an H&S perspective, and yet is still allowed to remain operational?  And a stand with such horrific history?  Seriously?
I suppose you could argue "If it can go wrong, it is dangerous.  If accidents can happen, then that possibility must be eradicated (if practicable) or minimised to the max!  If the aisles can be blocked, then they must be widened and/or added to".
Fair comment.  Difficult to argue... except to say that every single football stadium needs to be closed with immediate effect.  Not one of them is 100% safe... particularly once human beings are let in!
Sometimes, humans just need to do the right/sensible/honourable/decent/thoughtful/considerate thing, and show some common sense and good manners!    
 
 

I'm being purposely facetious, but I'm just pointing out that all his objections are about how things have affected him. Of course the press's role in the death of Diana was outrageous, but imagine if he'd come out and championed everyone who the press have turned against? If he'd outlined the grand problems we have with the role of the media in this country? But no, it doesn't seem like he has a problem with the role of the press at all, he has a problem with the role they've played in his life personally. He's interested in their phone hacking because his phone was hacked, not because of the tragedies that were caused by the greed of the media. 

I'm of the understanding there are access points at each end, in addition to the central tunnel?  So three in total?  
Apologies if that's not correct.

I'd not argue with you final paragraph.  It's been well over a decade (probably closer to two?) since I was last there, and I really don't recall how good... or not... the stewarding was back then.
 
However:
How clear is the signage when you're in a large crowd?
From the few pics I've seen, it appears to be as clear as it needs to be?  Above head height.  Clearly written (Seat Numbers), and with directional arrows to boot!
I was at the back of the stand for my first/only trip to Wembley (v Villa).  Ramps, stairs, along concourses, left here, right there... and more stairs into the seated area.  Boom!  Nailed it first time!  Go me!  
How do we manage getting through airports and railway stations that we may have never been to before, or they've been done up to a point where they are unrecognisable from your last visit?  I've never gone to gate B, when my info states gate A!  
I'm no world traveller (sadly!), but I've coped admirably at Malaga & Schiphol airports to name just two.  Even coped with the Train station next door to Schiphol... and Covent Garden Tube, come to think of it.
Hotel rooms?
The only time I can recall getting lost (when the info has been available) was when I was looking for a classroom at Wilmorton College... Turns out I was meant to be at the Normo Road site!  ?  (That's a very long and boring story, but trust me, I have a perfectly acceptable excuse, even for that!) ?
 
I don't see the problem coming from people wanting to stand wherever they like.  It seems quite obvious to me that the issue to poor design and layout of the stand and the approach to it.
(I almost misinterpreted the first sentence, but I think I understand what you are saying, with the two sentences combined!)
It is clear from the pics that some are doing just that... going through the tunnel, then stopping!  Dead!  In their tracks!  Standing on the central aisle.  At the mouth of the tunnel.  Wantonly oblivious to the fact that there are more folk behind them wishing to take the same route, in a vain attempt to reach their allocated seating.
Yes, It's a pile up, but if those at the front keep moving, then those in the middle can keep moving, then those at the back can keep moving, then those stuck in the tunnel can keep moving!
OK, you could argue it is only the front 4 or 5 who are blocking the staircase/Aisle, and the rest are stuck with nowhere to go, but that still amounts to 4 or 5 people "standing where they want" (as opposed to dozens/scores?)
(This is not April 1989.  There are no pens.  No fencing.  No possibility of restricted areas becoming overcrowded, whilst other areas remain sparse.  This is one large area big enough to accommodate the allocated numbers).
That is not a design fault.  It is DNA (Yoof)!  It's evolution in reverse!  Stupidity?  Selfishness? Coke?  Booze?  I've no idea. But this is on the collective individuals endangering the innocent. 
This is 2023.  H&S has been sticking it's middle digit up our arses for nigh on 3 decades (Before that, it was just the little pinky!).  Are you seriously suggesting this stand fails from an H&S perspective, and yet is still allowed to remain operational?  And a stand with such horrific history?  Seriously?
I suppose you could argue "If it can go wrong, it is dangerous.  If accidents can happen, then that possibility must be eradicated (if practicable) or minimised to the max!  If the aisles can be blocked, then they must be widened and/or added to".
Fair comment.  Difficult to argue... except to say that every single football stadium needs to be closed with immediate effect.  Not one of them is 100% safe... particularly once human beings are let in!
Sometimes, humans just need to do the right/sensible/honourable/decent/thoughtful/considerate thing, and show some common sense and good manners!    
 
 

I'd not argue with you final paragraph.  It's been well over a decade (probably closer to two?) since I was last there, and I really don't recall how good... or not... the stewarding was back then.
 
However:
How clear is the signage when you're in a large crowd?
From the few pics I've seen, it appears to be as clear as it needs to be?  Above head height.  Clearly written (Seat Numbers), and with directional arrows to boot!
I was at the back of the stand for my first/only trip to Wembley (v Villa).  Ramps, stairs, along concourses, left here, right there... and more stairs into the seated area.  Boom!  Nailed it first time!  Go me!  
How do we manage getting through airports and railway stations that we may have never been to before, or they've been done up to a point where they are unrecognisable from your last visit?  I've never gone to gate B, when my info states gate A!  
I'm no world traveller (sadly!), but I've coped admirably at Malaga & Schiphol airports to name just two.  Even coped with the Train station next door to Schiphol... and Covent Garden Tube, come to think of it.
Hotel rooms?
The only time I can recall getting lost (when the info has been available) was when I was looking for a classroom at Wilmorton College... Turns out I was meant to be at the Normo Road site!  ?  (That's a very long and boring story, but trust me, I have a perfectly acceptable excuse, even for that!) ?
 
I don't see the problem coming from people wanting to stand wherever they like.  It seems quite obvious to me that the issue to poor design and layout of the stand and the approach to it.
(I almost misinterpreted the first sentence, but I think I understand what you are saying, with the two sentences combined!)
It is clear from the pics that some are doing just that... going through the tunnel, then stopping!  Dead!  In their tracks!  Standing on the central aisle.  At the mouth of the tunnel.  Wantonly oblivious to the fact that there are more folk behind them wishing to take the same route, in a vain attempt to reach their allocated seating.
Yes, It's a pile up, but if those at the front keep moving, then those in the middle can keep moving, then those at the back can keep moving, then those stuck in the tunnel can keep moving!
OK, you could argue it is only the front 4 or 5 who are blocking the staircase/Aisle, and the rest are stuck with nowhere to go, but that still amounts to 4 or 5 people "standing where they want" (as opposed to dozens/scores?)
(This is not April 1989.  There are no pens.  No fencing.  No possibility of restricted areas becoming overcrowded, whilst other areas remain sparse.  This is one large area big enough to accommodate the allocated numbers).
That is not a design fault.  It is DNA (Yoof)!  It's evolution in reverse!  Stupidity?  Selfishness? Coke?  Booze?  I've no idea. But this is on the collective individuals endangering the innocent. 
This is 2023.  H&S has been sticking it's middle digit up our arses for nigh on 3 decades (Before that, it was just the little pinky!).  Are you seriously suggesting this stand fails from an H&S perspective, and yet is still allowed to remain operational?  And a stand with such horrific history?  Seriously?
I suppose you could argue "If it can go wrong, it is dangerous.  If accidents can happen, then that possibility must be eradicated (if practicable) or minimised to the max!  If the aisles can be blocked, then they must be widened and/or added to".
Fair comment.  Difficult to argue... except to say that every single football stadium needs to be closed with immediate effect.  Not one of them is 100% safe... particularly once human beings are let in!
Sometimes, humans just need to do the right/sensible/honourable/decent/thoughtful/considerate thing, and show some common sense and good manners!    
 
 

Is @David still in Amsterdam?  ?

They apparently took their entire squad ?