New Champions League format

[alanmarklewis]

It's an absolute mess?

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-need-t/

[Gaspode]

"This evolved format will still keep alive the dream of any team in Europe to participate in the UEFA Champions League...." of course it does....what a bunch of self-serving total ossers.....

[Anon]

"Slots three and four: Awarded to the two clubs with the highest club coefficients that have not qualified automatically for the Champions League’s league stage, but have qualified either for the Champions League qualification phase or the Europa League/the Europa Conference League (due to start in the 2021/22 season)."

Translation - We need a provision just in case a couple of our big money spinning teams fail to qualify legitimately.

I've said before, I wish the "big" teams would f*** off start their precious super league. The rest of us can go back to a two legged straight knock out tournament with no seeding, the way God intended when they invented football. Just imagine, all the glory hunters who spend all day on twitter and never actually go to games would go with them. All the yanks would go, all the oil money, all the celebrity obsessed Messi/Ronaldo stans. They'd go back to not knowing our league existed. It would be pure bliss.

Edited July 4, 2022 by Anon

[Rammy03]

That new format is awful. Both the qualification process and the competition itself. Don't get it. Unnecessarily complicated.

More games but apparently we have too many already and players are tired according to Klopp.

Just keep it simple. Don't fix something that isn't broken.

[TigerTedd]

19 minutes ago, Rammy03 said:

That new format is awful. Both the qualification process and the competition itself. Don't get it. Unnecessarily complicated.

More games but apparently we have too many already and players are tired according to Klopp.

Just keep it simple. Don't fix something that isn't broken.

But it is broken, because Man Utd and Arsenal didn’t qualify.

Football used to be cyclical. One club would be big for a bit, then a decade later it would be time for another club to have their day in the spotlight. But now so much had been invested in the brand, they (not just the club, but the premier league, uefa etc), can’t afford for that club to suddenly become crap, and wait for their turn to coke around again.

really what they want is a wwe of football where they can right the scripts and decide the fixtures and results. Every reformat so far has been a step towards this, seeding ensures that the biggest clubs don’t meet each other til the end. They’ve been actively doing it with the World Cup for years, platini just admitted that. This is another step in that direction.

It’s not a sport any more, it’s a multi billion pound industry, and you can’t take the chance of an unfashionable Leicester winning the league when there are millions of Chinese fans and Middle Eastern fans that would be pissed off by it.

[Bris Vegas]

It’s another safety net for the big clubs who miss out on Champions League football.

Oh United had a bad season and finished 6th. Never mind, historic coefficient points grants them a spot.

La Liga and the Bundesliga have the same winners but they regularly have different teams making up 3rd or 4th spot (well before Atletico and Liepzig) so that means those different teams don’t have the continuity to collect sufficient coefficient points.

The new system clearly benefits the Italian and PL clubs as they historically have the bigger clubs who miss out.

United, Arsenal, Roma, Inter Milan… clubs of that ilk.

[RadioactiveWaste]

Oh goodie, a fukton of pointless games I won't be watching.

 

[Day]

13 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

It’s another safety net for the big clubs who miss out on Champions League football.

Oh United had a bad season and finished 6th. Never mind, historic coefficient points grants them a spot.

La Liga and the Bundesliga have the same winners but they regularly have different teams making up 3rd or 4th spot (well before Atletico and Liepzig) so that means those different teams don’t have the continuity to collect sufficient coefficient points.

The new system clearly benefits the Italian and PL clubs as they historically have the bigger clubs who miss out.

United, Arsenal, Roma, Inter Milan… clubs of that ilk.

Nail head. It’s all about TV money. 

Champions League would benefit from having Manchester United in, even if they finish 6th.

Sounds like UEFA’s answer to the Super League, ensuring the bigger clubs remain, more incentive for TV/Streaming services to pay big money. 

You can almost guarantee the bigger clubs will mostly avoid each other in the league stage, the 10 games will be against clubs that simply can’t compete with the odd competitive game thrown in so they have a have a big club love in knockout stage at the end, making it harder for those plucky little smaller clubs like Villarreal making it through.

[RadioactiveWaste]

12 minutes ago, David said:

Nail head. It’s all about TV money. 

Champions League would benefit from having Manchester United in, even if they finish 6th.

Sounds like UEFA’s answer to the Super League, ensuring the bigger clubs remain, more incentive for TV/Streaming services to pay big money. 

You can almost guarantee the bigger clubs will mostly avoid each other in the league stage, the 10 games will be against clubs that simply can’t compete with the odd competitive game thrown in so they have a have a big club love in knockout stage at the end, making it harder for those plucky little smaller clubs like Villarreal making it through.

"Give up on the super-league and we'll fix it so the money spinning clubs will get in regardless of merit"

"ok, but if we don't like it, superleague 2 will happen "

I also think they genuinely didn't expect the kick back they got to the superleague.

[Day]

4 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

"Give up on the super-league and we'll fix it so the money spinning clubs will get in regardless of merit"

"ok, but if we don't like it, superleague 2 will happen "

I also think they genuinely didn't expect the kick back they got to the superleague.

Oh you can be sure in a few years Super League proposals will be back on the table when they want even more money.

We’re reaching the point where for the good of the game we should let them go, reset the money in the PL which would have a domino effect on wage bills down the leagues. 

Take over from the EFL and control the whole lot, rebrand, introduce strict financial controls.

Make the game more affordable for families, fill stadiums, also reduced TV deals to ensure games are given maximum exposure for the next generation of fans on terrestrial TV.

The opportunity is there to make this a saving football type move.

Problem is…..the suits running the game are on hefty salaries and will want to cling on to the money train for as long as possible.