Ghost of Clough Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, TexasRam said: There you go, what I said. Thank you for clearing up, my messages are open for apologies @jimmyp@GboroRam @Eddie. I won’t hold my breath TexasRam claim #1: "10 pm ITV news stated that Blackpool Victoria Hospital is now full of COVID patients." #FactCheck: No they didn't TexasRam Claim #2: "Truth- The “allocated” beds for Covid patients are full. Which is 8. From a total bed capacity of 767" #FactCheck: The doctor said the Covid unit is full. It is unclear as to the full meaning behind "Covid unit" as it may simply refer to the designated Covid ICU. Your claim also ignores the fact that their must be "allocated" beds for patients who don't require intensive care, as there were 75 other Covid patients in other wards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: TexasRam claim #1: "10 pm ITV news stated that Blackpool Victoria Hospital is now full of COVID patients." #FactCheck: No they didn't TexasRam Claim #2: "Truth- The “allocated” beds for Covid patients are full. Which is 8. From a total bed capacity of 767" #FactCheck: The doctor said the Covid unit is full. It is unclear as to the full meaning behind "Covid unit" as it may simply refer to the designated Covid ICU. Your claim also ignores the fact that their must be "allocated" beds for patients who don't require intensive care, as there were 75 other Covid patients in other wards. What I wrote :10 pm ITV news stated that Blackpool Victoria Hospital is now full of COVID patients. Truth- The “allocated” beds for Covid patients are full. Which is 8. From a total bed capacity of 767 What they said 7:43, "Their Covid unit is full". 8:20, "We are full in the Covid unit. We may spill over into the other intensive care unit". I’ll keep going all day this if you’re up for it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: TexasRam claim #1: "10 pm ITV news stated that Blackpool Victoria Hospital is now full of COVID patients." #FactCheck: No they didn't TexasRam Claim #2: "Truth- The “allocated” beds for Covid patients are full. Which is 8. From a total bed capacity of 767" #FactCheck: The doctor said the Covid unit is full. It is unclear as to the full meaning behind "Covid unit" as it may simply refer to the designated Covid ICU. Your claim also ignores the fact that their must be "allocated" beds for patients who don't require intensive care, as there were 75 other Covid patients in other wards. Not quite sure why I'm included in his demand for an apology, seeing as I've got him on perma-ignore and only see his posts when other people quote his 'misguidedness'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, ariotofmyown said: Because this was small example of some potentially inaccurate reporting/statistics in one hospital, whereas with your hopeless chart, you were trying to claim that this showed some overall truth that there is nothing to worry about. I remember around a month ago you were constantly going on about "why are hospital numbers not going up" when people were concerned about the rise in infections. You didn't seem to realise that infections are a leading indicator for hospital admissions. Now hospital numbers are going up, you keep asking "why are the deaths not going up", failing to realise that hospital admissions are a leading indicators for deaths. And this is all happening against a backdrop of restrictions that you don't agree with. I hope you don't end up been the @smiths_tavrn of the 2nd wave. Forget Blackpool8bedsgate,@TexasRam said he agreed with all of my above post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 hours ago, maxjam said: TBH I know very little about Australia, couldn't care less what they are doing tbh. That’s pretty ignorant of you Maxjam. 1) They’ve got their own royalty: 2) They have a UK Ambassador: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Forget Blackpool8bedsgate,@TexasRam said he agreed with all of my above post! That’s because you’re my favourite one of the others (the misguided) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Eddie said: Not quite sure why I'm included in his demand for an apology, seeing as I've got him on perma-ignore and only see his posts when other people quote his 'misguidedness'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, TexasRam said: What I wrote :10 pm ITV news stated that Blackpool Victoria Hospital is now full of COVID patients. Truth- The “allocated” beds for Covid patients are full. Which is 8. From a total bed capacity of 767 What they said 7:43, "Their Covid unit is full". 8:20, "We are full in the Covid unit. We may spill over into the other intensive care unit". I’ll keep going all day this if you’re up for it ? What you should of written was “ ITV news stated that Blackpool Victoria Hospital Covid unit is now full and they may spill over into other intensive care units. What was the purpose of including a truth section in your post if ITV never implied anything but the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, jimmyp said: What you should of written was “ ITV news states that Blackpool Victoria Hospital Covid unit is now full and they may spill over into other intensive care units. What was the purpose of including a truth section in your post if ITV never implied anything but the truth. To be honest Jim, if you can’t see through the propaganda, scaremongering and mass hysteria causing stirred up by these outlets. Moreover the above being an absolute prime example then it’s probably best you put me on ignore also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, TexasRam said: To be honest Jim, if you can’t see through the propaganda, scaremongering and mass hysteria causing stirred up by these outlets. Moreover the above being an absolute prime example then it’s probably best you put me on ignore also. I don’t buy into the whole ignorance is bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, Eddie said: Not quite sure why I'm included in his demand for an apology, seeing as I've got him on perma-ignore and only see his posts when other people quote his 'misguidedness'. Guilt by association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, jimmyp said: I don’t buy into the whole ignorance is bliss Ignorance to what ? To someone saying the allocation of the Covid unit is full without stating it was only 8 beds? I’m absolutely astounded people can’t see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, TexasRam said: To be honest Jim, if you can’t see through the propaganda, scaremongering and mass hysteria causing stirred up by these outlets. Moreover the above being an absolute prime example then it’s probably best you put me on ignore also. Also yesterday I posted something that was misleading and factually incorrect, it was however my opinion at the time that I was correct due to my research and general knowledge. I probed other members of this forum to prove me wrong as I was so sure I hadn’t made a mistake. After three posters pointed out I was in fact talking poop, I researched further and deeper and questioned my opinion. Turns out I was talking poop. I hadn’t done it on purpose. So I hung my head low apologised and admitted I was wrong. It happens to all of us, it’s not personal. ✌️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, jimmyp said: Also yesterday I posted something that was misleading and factually incorrect, it was however my opinion at the time that I was correct due to my research and general knowledge. I probed other members of this forum to prove me wrong as I was so sure I hadn’t made a mistake. After three posters pointed out I was in fact talking poop, I researched further and deeper and questioned my opinion. Turns out I was talking poop. I hadn’t done it on purpose. So I hung my head low apologised and admitted I was wrong. It happens to all of us, it’s not personal. ✌️ I’m not wrong though, but thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Ignorance to what ? To someone saying the allocation of the Covid unit is full without stating it was only 8 beds? I’m absolutely astounded people can’t see it Why would I put you on ignore. I’m not going to ignore you because you see something differently to me and most others in this case. Ignoring you will make no difference to me and is pointless. People disagree, it really doesn’t have to mean all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Another day, even more Covid nonsense. The fight back is beginning though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Another day, even more Covid nonsense. The fight back is beginning though. The "fight back"? Against who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, GboroRam said: The "fight back"? Against who? Agent smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 And it’s just the beginning Unemployment rate hits highest level in three years https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54520521 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, TexasRam said: And it’s just the beginning Unemployment rate hits highest level in three years https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54520521 So it was higher in 2017 when there was no COVID? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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