Van der MoodHoover Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, bigbadbob said: Ok cool. Thatcher was many things but no illegal wars. Cheers No I don't think it was at the time. Because Argentina invaded I think we got a un resolution to boot them out. Of course, because Argentina believes the islands are their sovereign territory, they don't consider themselves to have been invading. Oh well.....there was a big stink about an aircraft carrier being sunk when it was outside of the declared "exclusion zone" as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: No I don't think it was at the time. Because Argentina invaded I think we got a un resolution to boot them out. Of course, because Argentina believes the islands are their sovereign territory, they don't consider themselves to have been invading. Oh well.....there was a big stink about an aircraft carrier being sunk when it was outside of the declared "exclusion zone" as well.... That's right. Not an illegal war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 14 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: The poster stated that Thatcher was behind an illegal war, and was then asked which war it was? Or is this just another instance of where statements are made but dont have to be backed up? The Falklands, shoot to kill on foreign soil (Gibraltar and Ireland), Equatorial Guinea, there's more if you like but since you've asked, perhaps you could explain how any of these were 'legal' as a starting point. Actually, can you cite a single instance of warfare she conducted that was legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Angry Ram said: Didnt we have this discussion a while ago? You were clearly being disrespectful and should have given her money instead. Or at least I think that was the concensious? Without being contentious, how is giving someone sleeping rough disrespectful? And what consensus (I assume that's what you meant) was arrived at? Are we saying that the homeless feel demeaned by those offering them something to eat and if so, is there anything you can cite to support this assertion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 5 hours ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Without being contentious, how is giving someone sleeping rough disrespectful? And what consensus (I assume that's what you meant) was arrived at? Are we saying that the homeless feel demeaned by those offering them something to eat and if so, is there anything you can cite to support this assertion? Was not my opinion. Just pointing out that there was an earlier thread on this very subject earlier in the year and people were arguing about giving food or money and which respected the homeless person. Might be wrong but I am sure it was agreed it was giving money that respected the homeless person. My post was tongue in cheek to the poster who did remember and get my point. Hole that explains it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Was not my opinion. Just pointing out that there was an earlier thread on this very subject earlier in the year and people were arguing about giving food or money and which respected the homeless person. Might be wrong but I am sure it was agreed it was giving money that respected the homeless person. My post was tongue in cheek to the poster who did remember and get my point. Hole that explains it? @86 Schmokes & a Pancake Just to add, personally and having spoken to a lot of homeless people, they are grateful for anything really.. Addiction and homelessness do go hand in hand in some cases and money an become an enabler to keep in that spiral. From what I have seen, there is no general right or wrong, it’s all about the individual and their circumstances.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 14 hours ago, Curtains said: Who’s going to address the bricks and timber shortage to build 100 k homes a year and whose going to train the builders. Another policy not thought through by Corbyn Are you really having a dig at a policy that will potentially give UK industry a major boost? Do we have a shortage of materials? Not to my knowlage, and Im in the industry. We've had to close factories due to lack of demand. The construction industry will be more than happy to meet the challange of increased demand. Increased demand will attract people back into the market. Its happening all the time. Its pretty easy to start up a new brick / block works. Try looking at policies objectively without making your mind up depending on which party is promoting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Was not my opinion. Just pointing out that there was an earlier thread on this very subject earlier in the year and people were arguing about giving food or money and which respected the homeless person. Might be wrong but I am sure it was agreed it was giving money that respected the homeless person. My post was tongue in cheek to the poster who did remember and get my point. Hole that explains it? No i remember it well. Someone posted they had bought a drink or meal for someone and they were criticised by one of our old posters who was quite outspoken. A few backed her but most sided with the person who gave food / drink. Of course there were articles posted plucked from obscure sources as was usual. The concensus was it should be ok whatever you choose to give and that if you start dictating then people will be put off giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, CWC1983 said: Try looking at policies objectively without making your mind up depending on which party is promoting them. Not on his own, almost every poster here seems to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul71 said: No i remember it well. Someone posted they had bought a drink or meal for someone and they were criticised by one of our old posters who was quite outspoken. A few backed her but most sided with the person who gave food / drink. Of course there were articles posted plucked from obscure sources as was usual. The concensus was it should be ok whatever you choose to give and that if you start dictating then people will be put off giving. Ah okay. Thanks for looking. Was a tongue in cheek post anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, CWC1983 said: Are you really having a dig at a policy that will potentially give UK industry a major boost? Do we have a shortage of materials? Not to my knowlage, and Im in the industry. We've had to close factories due to lack of demand. The construction industry will be more than happy to meet the challange of increased demand. Increased demand will attract people back into the market. Its happening all the time. Its pretty easy to start up a new brick / block works. Try looking at policies objectively without making your mind up depending on which party is promoting them. How many rain forests are you going to chop down to erect your joists . PS There is a shortage of bricks. https://www.pbctoday.co.uk/news/plant-equipment-supplies-news/brick-shortage/44306/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul71 said: Not on his own, almost every poster here seems to do that Believe it or not, there are plenty of Labour policies that I could buy into if I thought they were deliverable. However, there are also plenty that I am completely opposed to hence why I'm never really tempted to vote for them. A lot of Labout policies are for an ideal world but unfortunately we dont, and never will, live in that place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 https://www.pbctoday.co.uk/news/plant-equipment-supplies-news/brick-shortage/44306/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Curtains said: How many rain forests are you going to chop down to erect your joists . The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind The answer is blowin' in the wind. ?️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Funny how so many people jumped at the chance to buy their Council Houses throughout the country. How much will the rent be on these new ones. Oh hang on is it like BROADBAND. Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Curtains said: Funny how so many people jumped at the chance to buy their Council Houses in Littleover etc. It's a little bit funny this feeling inside I'm not one of those who can easily hide I don't have much money but boy if I did I'd buy a big house where we both could live ?️?️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, WhiteHorseRam said: It's a little bit funny this feeling inside I'm not one of those who can easily hide I don't have much money but boy if I did I'd buy a big house where we both could live ?️?️ For FREE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Do we want i something for nothing society. Great in theory. Something For Nothing Song by Rush Lyrics Waiting for the winds of change To sweep the clouds away Waiting for the rainbow's end To cast its gold your way Countless ways You pass the days Waiting for someone to call And turn your world around Looking for an answer to The questions you have found Looking for An open door Oh you don't get something for nothing You don't get freedom for free You won't get wise With the sleep still in your eyes No matter what your dreams might be No you don't get something for nothing You dcan't have freedom for free You won't get wise With the sleep still in your eyes No matter what your dream might be What you own is your own kingdom What you do is your own glory What you love is your own power What you live is your own story In your head is the answer Let it guide you along Let your heart be the anchor And the beat of your song Oh you don't get something for nothing You can't have freedom for free, no Whoa you don't get something for nothing You can't have freedom for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Curtains said: Do we want i something for nothing society. Great in theory. Something For Nothing Song by Rush Lyrics Waiting for the winds of change To sweep the clouds away Waiting for the rainbow's end To cast its gold your way Countless ways You pass the days God Bless you @Curtains, you have song in your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 https://news.sky.com/story/general-election-conservatives-vow-to-hike-property-taxes-on-foreign-buyers-11866779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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