Bris Vegas Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Man City are ruthlessly picking Burnley apart on the break. Burnley are an excellent defensive, compact unit but when they’re forced to attack they look incoherent and unimaginative. That’s why I’d imagine Dyche would struggle at a bigger club when the onus is on them to attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Ok so Villa have a master plan to ditch the cup but it’s still really funny to see that result today. Well done Peterborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Chelsea owe me £10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, ViewsFromTheMiddle said: Chelsea owe me £10. Don’t tell me you weren’t on the draw at 11-1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, froggg said: Don’t tell me you weren’t on the draw at 11-1? Nah. Sky did a 4/1 super boost for Man City, Newcastle and Wolves, money back if it lost. Wolves let it down so got my tenner back. Put it on Chelsea at evens at half-time, the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Man City are ruthlessly picking Burnley apart on the break. Burnley are an excellent defensive, compact unit but when they’re forced to attack they look incoherent and unimaginative. That’s why I’d imagine Dyche would struggle at a bigger club when the onus is on them to attack. Reminds me of Moyes at Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Gutted...had a fivefold in place ready today Coventry, Hull, Huddersfield, Charlton, Plymouth. £40 would have returned around £4000. Changed my mind and just had Charlton and Plymouth double. Still won £220 but could have been so much more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Man City are ruthlessly picking Burnley apart on the break. Burnley are an excellent defensive, compact unit but when they’re forced to attack they look incoherent and unimaginative. That’s why I’d imagine Dyche would struggle at a bigger club when the onus is on them to attack. Absolutely no way of knowing. If he was at a big club he wouldn't have players of the quality of Ashley Barnes and Sam Vokes in the attacking positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Excellent Seville derby on now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 7 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Absolutely no way of knowing. If he was at a big club he wouldn't have players of the quality of Ashley Barnes and Sam Vokes in the attacking positions. But a manager’s philosophy doesn’t change on a club-by-club basis. Dyche’s team play the way they do because it’s what he knows, what he is comfortable coaching. A big team wouldn’t ever hire him because there is no proof he can get teams playing attacking football. Howe, on the other hand, may have better luck. Like Joe said earlier, Dyche is in the Moyes mould. Some managers excel at specific jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: But a manager’s philosophy doesn’t change on a club-by-club basis. Dyche’s team play the way they do because it’s what he knows, what he is comfortable coaching. A big team wouldn’t ever hire him because there is no proof he can get teams playing attacking football. Howe, on the other hand, may have better luck. Like Joe said earlier, Dyche is in the Moyes mould. Some managers excel at specific jobs. Don't agree. Dyche sets up his team the way he does because he knows that if they went out and attacked teams that have spent hundreds of millions they would get torn to pieces. Do you really think if he was in charge of Man City he would set up defensively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Newport have just equalised against the Dirties. (on BBC Wales) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2-1 Newport now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2-1 to the Black and Amber Boys now. (I lived in Newport as a kid and used to watch them, so have a soft spot for them). Also, Dirties now down to 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Result!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Don't agree. Dyche sets up his team the way he does because he knows that if they went out and attacked teams that have spent hundreds of millions they would get torn to pieces. Do you really think if he was in charge of Man City he would set up defensively? Well he wouldn’t set them up like Guardiola does, that’s for sure. You can play attacking football in the Premier League. You don’t have to play Burnley’s way. Rodgers and Laudrup did it at Swansea, Howe does it at Bournemouth. You look at someone like Jokanovic at Fulham. If they go up, they wouldn’t suddenly play a different style. It’s worth remembering Dyche took over Eddie Howe at Burnley. Howe had already looked to bring footballers in there, it was Dyche who then resorted back to their current style. Burnley play the same way whether they’re playing Man City away or West Brom at home. They don’t do attacking football, because their manager isn’t comfortable with it, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 32 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Well he wouldn’t set them up like Guardiola does, that’s for sure. You can play attacking football in the Premier League. You don’t have to play Burnley’s way. Rodgers and Laudrup did it at Swansea, Howe does it at Bournemouth. You look at someone like Jokanovic at Fulham. If they go up, they wouldn’t suddenly play a different style. It’s worth remembering Dyche took over Eddie Howe at Burnley. Howe had already looked to bring footballers in there, it was Dyche who then resorted back to their current style. Burnley play the same way whether they’re playing Man City away or West Brom at home. They don’t do attacking football, because their manager isn’t comfortable with it, IMO. Why is it for sure? You've mentioned Rodgers, Laudrup and Howe, what is the highest placed finish any of them have had? It's ok playing easy on the eye football but finishing mid table every year will not enable these teams to progress. If Burnley could get in Europe it would be the second biggest achievement in Premier League history. Dyche is clever enough to realise that he doesn't have the players to achieve that playing easy on the eye football. Do you think Guardiola would get Burnley top of the league using his brand of football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Why is it for sure? You've mentioned Rodgers, Laudrup and Howe, what is the highest placed finish any of them have had? It's ok playing easy on the eye football but finishing mid table every year will not enable these teams to progress. If Burnley could get in Europe it would be the second biggest achievement in Premier League history. Dyche is clever enough to realise that he doesn't have the players to achieve that playing easy on the eye football. Do you think Guardiola would get Burnley top of the league using his brand of football? Laudrup already took Swansea into Europe, via winning the League Cup. Martinez took Wigan into Europe via winning the FA Cup. Why would Burnley finishing 7th be the 2nd biggest achievement in PL history? Actually playing with the ball, looking to attack teams and utilizing movement off the ball improves players. There is nothing easier in football than just sticking 11 men behind the ball and punting it long, playing off scraps and 2nd balls. Dyche bought players to play his way. It’s working for him and Burnley, so there is nothing to criticise. But lets not pretend it wasn’t his choice to play this way. He does it because it’s what he knows. He would be lost at a club who look to actually play attacking football and win trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Shocking team selection by Arsenal. Forest lead 1-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1-1 Mertasacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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