MACKWORTHRAM Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 This is an absolute brilliant signing. Getting a midfielder with his ability for 2 million is an absolute steal. Played in a Spurs side that finished top 4 in the prem for 2 seasons. Played in the champions league. Played for England. Played consistently in the prem. Can control a midfield quite comfortably. 30 isn't old for a footballer now. Look at JT. 37 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, David said: Let's talk about what you said though, how is the squad bigger and more bloated? 4 out, 3 in. At the end of last season all I heard from supporters was we need to get people out. That hasn't happened. We need to get more out than in by a higher percentage or as I say the U23s may not exist. I also made a post who would want to leave Derby on big wages and large contracts so I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: This is an absolute brilliant signing. Getting a midfielder with his ability for 2 million is an absolute steal. Played in a Spurs side that finished top 4 in the prem for 2 seasons. Played in the champions league. Played for England. Played consistently in the prem. Can control a midfield quite comfortably. 30 isn't old for a footballer now. Look at JT. 37 years old. What about squad unity with not many outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 minute ago, curtains said: At the end of last season all I heard from supporters was we need to get people out. That hasn't happened. We need to get more out than in by a higher percentage or as I say the U23s may not exist. I also made a post who would want to leave Derby on big wages and large contracts so I rest my case. You're not going to answer the question are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, curtains said: At the end of last season all I heard from supporters was we need to get people out. That hasn't happened. We need to get more out than in by a higher percentage or as I say the U23s may not exist. I also made a post who would want to leave Derby on big wages and large contracts so I rest my case. You're getting worse by the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, curtains said: At the end of last season all I heard from supporters was we need to get people out. That hasn't happened. We need to get more out than in by a higher percentage or as I say the U23s may not exist. I also made a post who would want to leave Derby on big wages and large contracts so I rest my case. You do realise the summer isn't over? We have plenty of time left for outs, that isn't a reason to object to a signing. How can you 'rest your case' when we have had 4 of our players leave. The U23's are going to cease to exist because we have a big squad? Now, I accept the point they may have less opportunities, but not exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: This is an absolute brilliant signing. Getting a midfielder with his ability for 2 million is an absolute steal. Played in a Spurs side that finished top 4 in the prem for 2 seasons. Played in the champions league. Played for England. Played consistently in the prem. Can control a midfield quite comfortably. 30 isn't old for a footballer now. Look at JT. 37 years old. Totally agree , people would find anything to whinge about. Will be a key player next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, David said: You're not going to answer the question are you? It isn't more bloated per say but that's not the point as we still have too many players. Some people like to say deadwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, curtains said: At the end of last season all I heard from supporters was we need to get people out. That hasn't happened. We need to get more out than in by a higher percentage or as I say the U23s may not exist. I also made a post who would want to leave Derby on big wages and large contracts so I rest my case. You worry about supporting the team instead of worrying about how many players have left , I'm sure Rowett will sort it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Andicis said: You do realise the summer isn't over? We have plenty of time left for outs, that isn't a reason to object to a signing. How can you 'rest your case' when we have had 4 of our players leave. The U23's are going to cease to exist because we have a big squad? Now, I accept the point they may have less opportunities, but not exist? What's the point of them if they can't get a chance in the first 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsFan10 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Although I'm not raving as much as most are, 2 million for someone of Tom's ability isn't just pants down, we've robbed their socks and shoes too buying both Huddlestone and Davies for 2.5. We should seriously be considering activating Odubajo's relegation release clause of 50p, as well as the clause in Clucas' contract that allows him to leave for a packet of Walkers ready salted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: You're getting worse by the day I don't have to rate Huddlestone do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Just now, curtains said: What's the point of them if they can't get a chance in the first 11 You can still learn things from playing in the under 23's. Injuries can happen to players in the first team squad, and if they impress they may go out on loan and prove themselves. The under 23's isn't a situation for here and now always, it can be used for the future, when the squad will be less 'bloated' as you put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Just now, curtains said: It isn't more bloated per say but that's not the point as we still have too many players. Some people like to say deadwood You said the squad is getting bigger and bigger. 4 players have left. 3 players will have come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Just now, David said: You said the squad is getting bigger and bigger. 4 players have left. 3 players will have come in. You are being pedantic but that's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Carson Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth Thorne Huddlestone That's a great defensive unit. And hopefully should score a few goals from set pieces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 minute ago, curtains said: You are being pedantic but that's you. That's not pedantic. That's maths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, curtains said: At the end of last season all I heard from supporters was we need to get people out. That hasn't happened. We need to get more out than in by a higher percentage or as I say the U23s may not exist. I also made a post who would want to leave Derby on big wages and large contracts so I rest my case. The players we most want rid of was never going to be a quick job. no one is likely to give us money for Bent & Blackman, or meet their wages. They will probably be loaned out. Rawson and Hanson are more likely to go out on loan again than be sold in my opinion, also wouldn't be surprised to see Lowe go out on loan. Of course, a couple more at least need to be sold ideally. One of Johnson, Butterfield or Bryson could certainly go, but we need a buyer first. Perhaps there is one and we just don't know it yet, or nobody's interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Andicis said: You can still learn things from playing in the under 23's. Injuries can happen to players in the first team squad, and if they impress they may go out on loan and prove themselves. The under 23's isn't a situation for here and now always, it can be used for the future, when the squad will be less 'bloated' as you put it. Shall we give the players away or pay off their contracts to get rid of the players we don't want then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: That's not pedantic. That's maths. 1 more out yes but we got rid our 2 best players in Ince and Hughes . Camara was never going to stay and Christie was decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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