dog Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Just read that our leader has refused to condemn Trump's latest xenophobic ramblings. Theresa May Shame on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, dog said: Just read that our leader has refused to condemn Trump's latest xenophobic ramblings. Theresa May Shame on you It shouldn't be you apologising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 minute ago, dog said: Just read that our leader has refused to condemn Trump's latest xenophobic ramblings. Theresa May Shame on you I though you meant David when you referred to "our leader". I'm not sure there's much worth condemning anyway, but we want to sign a trade deal with the guy and it'll be easier to sign without a knife in his back. There's no room for vapid virtue signalling in international politics. Maybe try Tumblr instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Maybe our leader should try using the same method of negotiating with Trump that some Russian ladies used on him in Moscow, worked quit well from what I read. Of cause I'm referring to Theresa not David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 US leader shouldn't interfere in UK internal matters (you 'arkin Obama?) UK leader shouldn't interfere in US internal matters (quite right Mrs May) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 When you want to establish a good working relationship with someone it's usually not a good idea to tell them at your first meeting the things you don't like about them. Look how far Laura Kuenssberg's question got her. If you want to convince someone to change it's best to get close to them first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Anon said: I though you meant David when you referred to "our leader". Same here, started reading thinking wtf have I done now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 2 hours ago, dog said: Just read that our leader has refused to condemn Trump's latest xenophobic ramblings. Theresa May Shame on you The whole thing is a mess right now. Signing this deal with Turkey in light with all the human rights abuses? This is the murkiest politics has been in decades. I say bring back Tony Blair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Anon said: There's no room for vapid virtue signalling in international politics. Maybe try Tumblr instead? I think you're making the mistake of confusing virtue signalling with not normalising fascism. If nobody is willing to stand up for people being discriminated against, vain career politicians think that it's what people want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Tombo said: I think you're making the mistake of confusing virtue signalling with not normalising fascism. If nobody is willing to stand up for people being discriminated against, vain career politicians think that it's what people want. Yes, labeling Trump as a fascist doesn't make you look like a melodramatic drama queen in the slightest. I wonder where this outcry was for us to condemn Recep Erdogan when tens of thousands of Turks were rounded up without trial? Where are the calls for us to denounce an actual totalitarian one party state in China? Why didn't anyone care when Narendra Modi introduced the Armed Forces Special Powers Act that allows states to effectively declare martial law whilst granting security forces immunity from civilian prosecutions? It is not a human right for absolutely anyone to be allowed to enter or emigrate to the US. It is absolutely none of our business who the US does or doesn't want to allow into their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Anon said: Yes, labeling Trump as a fascist doesn't make you look like a melodramatic drama queen in the slightest. Nope. It doesn't, because both in rhetoric and action he's proved that's exactly what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 20 minutes ago, Tombo said: Nope. It doesn't, because both in rhetoric and action he's proved that's exactly what he is. Tell yourself whatever you need to get through the day. All that will happen is that the terms Nazi and fascist will cease to have such a social stigma if you continue to misuse them. Much like what is currently happening with the word racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 We might have different definitions for fascism and other similar terms here. IMO there's fascism without racism but not without protectionism, which is exactly how Trumps has started his presidential career. If protectionism would work, North Korea and Iran would be mightiest countries in the world... I strongly suggest to watch "Backlight: The Chinese World Order". It might be the reason why Trump is acting like he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Why should our PM have to waste her time condemning the personal thoughts of the American president. Will it make him change his mind? Does she not have more important matters on her agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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