Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I think so. Hendrick this Hendrick that. Johnson this Johnson that Forsyth this Forsyth that. Olsson this Olsson that Buxton this Buxton that. And then there is Martin and Keogh etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 If everyone agreed and had the same opinions the world would be a boring place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Two words. Human nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 I'm backing Pearson and so should Derby fans http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/nigel-pearson-has-a-better-idea-of-his-derby-county-xi-to-face-brighton-in-opener/story-29560302-detail/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Srg said: Football. But do other clubs have the same sense of outrage at every decision and does it hamper us as a club ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, curtains said: I'm backing Pearson and so should Derby fans http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/nigel-pearson-has-a-better-idea-of-his-derby-county-xi-to-face-brighton-in-opener/story-29560302-detail/story.html Of course. He knows what he's trying to do - note he said "get the performance " first with a consequential "to try to get the 3 points". He's the manager so the fact that I have no idea what he's going to do or even what I think would be best for him to do is neither here nor there. I'm just pleased he seems so clear in his thinking. Imagine if he'd said something like " well, each group of players have given me something to think about. I'd like to try a few more combinations before we start the season. Our pre season games have been very useful for me to try out a few of my ideas to see if they might work for us and we'll continue to adapt and adjust as we enter the season." That might be factually correct but it doesn't inspire any confidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, curtains said: But do other clubs have the same sense of outrage at every decision and does it hamper us as a club ! What outrage are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 1 minute ago, HantsRam said: Of course. He knows what he's trying to do - note he said "get the performance " first with a consequential "to try to get the 3 points". He's the manager so the fact that I have no idea what he's going to do or even what I think would be best for him to do is neither here nor there. I'm just pleased he seems so clear in his thinking. Imagine if he'd said something like " well, each group of players have given me something to think about. I'd like to try a few more combinations before we start the season. Our pre season games have been very useful for me to try out a few of my ideas to see if they might work for us and we'll continue to adapt and adjust as we enter the season." That might be factually correct but it doesn't inspire any confidence! I like the bit where he says it would be wrong for the players to make assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, curtains said: But do other clubs have the same sense of outrage at every decision and does it hamper us as a club ! Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Every manager will have different opinions on players, tactics and which formations are best suited. As fans not agreeing with every call a manager makes doesn't mean you don't back him, want him out. As fans not agreeing with each other on the usefulness of Hendrick, Keogh, Martin etc. is also totally normal. The day every manager and fans agree will be the day football is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, HantsRam said: Of course. He knows what he's trying to do - note he said "get the performance " first with a consequential "to try to get the 3 points". He's the manager so the fact that I have no idea what he's going to do or even what I think would be best for him to do is neither here nor there. I'm just pleased he seems so clear in his thinking. Imagine if he'd said something like " well, each group of players have given me something to think about. I'd like to try a few more combinations before we start the season. Our pre season games have been very useful for me to try out a few of my ideas to see if they might work for us and we'll continue to adapt and adjust as we enter the season." That might be factually correct but it doesn't inspire any confidence! Do Everton fans for instance get as upset about getting 50 Million for Stones an ex Barnsley player going to Man City ! As we do about Jeff Hendrick for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”. John Lydgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, curtains said: But do other clubs have the same sense of outrage at every decision and does it hamper us as a club ! Have you seen the Notts Forest thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, bcnram said: What outrage are you referring to? If anyone even suggests Martin being transferred. That sort of outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 No we won't. We all love Derby though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, curtains said: Do Everton fans for instance get as upset about getting 50 Million for Stones an ex Barnsley player going to Man City ! As we do about Jeff Hendrick for instance. Difficult that. They might be glad to get rid. But I bet there will be differing opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Let's hope Pearson is his own man. Clement tried to be but got bogged down. Fans opinion does sway managers . So does player power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, David said: Every manager will have different opinions on players, tactics and which formations are best suited. As fans not agreeing with every call a manager makes doesn't mean you don't back him, want him out. As fans not agreeing with each other on the usefulness of Hendrick, Keogh, Martin etc. is also totally normal. The day every manager and fans agree will be the day football is finished. So your saying all this pressure on the managers is healthy for Football. Clement and Wassall had too much pressure IMO and I hope Pearson can rise above it. I understand more why Mel Morris said promotion is not a priority in some ways as he was trying to take the pressure off the manager but even that got taken the wrong way I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, curtains said: So your saying all this pressure on the managers is healthy for Football. Clement and Wassall had too much pressure IMO and I hope Pearson can rise above it. I understand more why Mel Morris said promotion is not a priority in some ways as he was trying to take the pressure off the manager but even that got taken the wrong way I suppose. Fan pressure? Part of the job, fans want to win, fans want to see success. If a manager can't deal with fan pressure he should never have gone into football management. It's like opening a chip shop when you can't handle potatoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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