G STAR RAM Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 4 hours ago, HKRam said: If you ask a philosopher who studies deceptive behaviors like lying and BS (fun fact: there is indeed a book titled On Bull ****), he would tell you that Rush's Redknapp story is a lie. On the other hand, Rush's FFP Story fits the classic definition of deception, at least in the way DET reported his spin: http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-inside-Financial-Fair-Play-guidlines/story-28933263-detail/story.html#ixzz43442DZKM Further reading for those interested: https://users.cs.cf.ac.uk/CaminadaM/publications/dishonesty.pdf You're negativity, is becoming really tiresome. Do you really think SR is going to lie when the accounts are going to be available in the public domain in the next 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 12 hours ago, rynny said: As good a place as any to put this. He said: "I've been watching football still and doing work for BT Sport but I'm glad to be back in the day-to-day. I had a buzz this morning getting up. "I got a phone call at the weekend and just asked what was the situation with the manager. I was told Darren wanted me to come in and help out and be another pair of eyes for him, with a bit of experience. http://sport.bt.com/football/news/harry-redknapp-hoping-to-give-rams-the-push-they-need-S11364046675473 So now Harry is lying? Or did Mel lie to Harry to get him here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 If it was darren's idea, wouldn't he have phoned harry? just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Just now, RamNut said: If it was darren's idea, wouldn't he have phoned harry? just saying. Yes because I imagine there are no reporting lines within the club. Guess if Wassall wanted a player on loan he would just ring him up and get him down to play on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 23 minutes ago, RamNut said: If it was darren's idea, wouldn't he have phoned harry? just saying. As stated above by G Star, IF it was Darren's choice Mel or Sam would have made the call, but seeing as though it seems MM and HR know each other before hand then it was only right MM made the call. Similar to when Savage spoke to Kuqi about a loan move. 26 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: So now Harry is lying? Or did Mel lie to Harry to get him here? Maybe Darren was told someone was coming in and he could chose out of a list of candidates and chose Harry, matches up with all that has been said by the hierarchy. I think. Hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 But the chairman just felt maybe it was good to have somebody work alongside him for this vital part of the season, that's all....said Harry Pretty clear to me who instigated the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Just now, Leeds Ram said: But the chairman just felt maybe it was good to have somebody work alongside him for this vital part of the season, that's all. Pretty clear to me who instigated the move. And what have you based this on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: And what have you based this on? Based what on ? That the chairman instigated it, in that case based on what I just quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: Based what on ? That the chairman instigated it, in that case based on what I just quoted. Oh but the club tell us that it was DWs idea to get some help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Oh but the club tell us that it was DWs idea to get some help? Everything I have read since it became "official" doesn't mention that it was. Im sure when DW speaks he will refer to this if it's the case, my guess is that he will toe the line as always, and it will be it's a great opportunity to work alongside blah blah blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 27 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: Everything I have read since it became "official" doesn't mention that it was. Im sure when DW speaks he will refer to this if it's the case, my guess is that he will toe the line as always, and it will be it's a great opportunity to work alongside blah blah blah. So as appears to be the norm you have decided that you will go along with an unsubstantiated version which paints DCFC in the worst light. Surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 It does'nt matter who's idea it was, he needs help and now has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Lies lies lies ,,,, bloody canteen lady,,,, turns out she had sausages under the counter all the time but forum boys were on the ignore list,,,,,,this all now pales,,, it's forest at home TOMMOROW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 3 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Oh but the club tell us that it was DWs idea to get some help? Leeds Ram is looking at all versions....and is rightly confused as they do not tally. Maybe insignificant, but they do not all add up. As this all happened within 24hours of fans booing waffle I think it I important to me and others who like to takes view on where we are likely/probable to end up as a club. it is far from positive I do not even know how Harry will effectively help. Sam was unsure if Harry would be on the bench. Now we know from Harry he will watch from stands and comment to Waffle after the game. Waffle now had his helper chatting to Mel during a game. Schadenfreude.....pure and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 9 hours ago, HKRam said: If you ask a philosopher who studies deceptive behaviors like lying and BS (fun fact: there is indeed a book titled On Bull ****), he would tell you that Rush's Redknapp story is a lie. On the other hand, Rush's FFP Story fits the classic definition of deception, at least in the way DET reported his spin: http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-inside-Financial-Fair-Play-guidlines/story-28933263-detail/story.html#ixzz43442DZKM Further reading for those interested: https://users.cs.cf.ac.uk/CaminadaM/publications/dishonesty.pdf I agree that it could be spin (probably is, I work in PR so most things are spin in my life, even the fact that I'm saying I work in PR is spin because technically, I am in between jobs). Just sometimes I think people take words too literally and that could of been the case in this sense. From my point of view, either way I'm just not bothered who wanted Redknapp, I just hope he can improve us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, igorlegend said: Schadenfreude.....pure and simple. Eh? Are you claiming that Harry Redknapp is taking pleasure in the misfortune of Darren Wassall or have you just totally misunderstood what Schadenfreude means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, igorlegend said: Leeds Ram is looking at all versions....and is rightly confused as they do not tally. Maybe insignificant, but they do not all add up. As this all happened within 24hours of fans booing waffle I think it I important to me and others who like to takes view on where we are likely/probable to end up as a club. it is far from positive I do not even know how Harry will effectively help. Sam was unsure if Harry would be on the bench. Now we know from Harry he will watch from stands and comment to Waffle after the game. Waffle now had his helper chatting to Mel during a game. Schadenfreude.....pure and simple. Maybe they should have all sat down and collaborated their stories to make sure that it is all exactly the same. I am sure nobody would complain about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 11 minutes ago, rynny said: Maybe they should have all sat down and collaborated their stories to make sure that it is all exactly the same. I am sure nobody would complain about that... maybe, but the fact they haven't got their stories 'straight' would suggest there's no collusion to mislead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: maybe, but the fact they haven't got their stories 'straight' would suggest there's no collusion to mislead. You missed my small mischief making, as soon as everyone is saying the same thing then it will be a script written by Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Does it really matter who said what to who? All that does really matters now is we all get behind the team, the coaching staff and push on for the best possible finish to the season. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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