Anag Ram Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 6 hours ago, Edinburgh ram said: Keep Russell can't help but love him sell Blackman, bent, weimann, shotton, Pearce I was in your gang with Russell but he has under performed too many times now and doesn't have the footballing brain you need at this level. You have to make quick decisions when you're under pressure and he just doesn't have that ability. I think that if we play Blackman in a freer role upfront we will see goals from him. Like many of the players we have signed in the past two seasons I suspect he's a bit of a glory boy and doesn't strike me as a grafter when times are hard but we have to feed egos like that, not starve them by playing the guy out of position. We either play Martin with appropriate midfield support or not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 8 hours ago, Edinburgh ram said: Keep Russell can't help but love him sell Blackman, bent, weimann, shotton, Pearce Two weeks, written off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 On 26/01/2016 at 11:16, climbon said: Rather than targeting certain players to leave, clement needs to decide on the type of football he wants to play, decide on a plan A formation and then keep/buy the players for that system. I cant help but feel that our current recruitment plan involves panicking, finding the best player we can irrespective of style of play or strengths and weaknesses and then paying whatever the other team wants for them. We need a strategy... A clear vision of type of football we want to play, then recruit and sell based on that! We could our playing approach "The Derby Style"....no, wait......"The Derby Way"! Yes, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 On 1/28/2016 at 09:45, eddie said: A lot of people are selling players just brought to the club on 3 year contracts.Step back think cause and effect. TOO many poor signings ,sorry not the answer because Mel has spent millions buying the club from the yanks . So he can bring in his own players,at inflated prices and wages,with his own recruitment team , To sell these players is to admit to mistakes being made,by the international recruiting system set up by Sam Rush This will mean they don't have a clue,and the yanks knew it was time to bail out, This is Mel time and is name will be remembered in Derbys history,and the fans will know he had a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 43 minutes ago, trevor1946 said: A lot of people are selling players just brought to the club on 3 year contracts.Step back think cause and effect. TOO many poor signings ,sorry not the answer because Mel has spent millions buying the club from the yanks . So he can bring in his own players,at inflated prices and wages,with his own recruitment team , To sell these players is to admit to mistakes being made,by the international recruiting system set up by Sam Rush This will mean they don't have a clue,and the yanks knew it was time to bail out, This is Mel time and is name will be remembered in Derbys history,and the fans will know he had a go Like I said, two weeks and written off - some nailed your colours firmly to the mast a long time ago, along with Jill Gallone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Well this list could get quite a bit longer soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Its going to be a lot easier to shift the old guard than the new as their wages/contracts will be easier to sell on. Maybe it's about time the likes of Hendrick, Russell, Martin, Keogh moved on and bettered themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 What will most likely happen is we will ship off about 11 players that no one will miss. Probably Bent, Sammon (finally out of contract), Albentosa, Shotton, Weimann, Blackman, Camara, Johnson, Baird, Roos and Pearce, We will probably end up with about £8m and obviously a significantly reduced wage bill. Warnock will also probably go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, Ash said: Its going to be a lot easier to shift the old guard than the new as their wages/contracts will be easier to sell on. Maybe it's about time the likes of Hendrick, Russell, Martin, Keogh moved on and bettered themselves? I am sorry but that's not easy enough. Still too many hassles. What's the easiest, then? Sell it back to GSE and call it a day. Sayounara in Japanese. Reincarnation in Hindu. MM -- GSE -- MM -- GSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'd sell Johnson, Russell,Martin,Weimann, Hendrick, Bent and Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, Uptherams said: What will most likely happen is we will ship off about 11 players that no one will miss. Probably Bent, Sammon (finally out of contract), Albentosa, Shotton, Weimann, Blackman, Camara, Johnson, Baird, Roos and Pearce, We will probably end up with about £8m and obviously a significantly reduced wage bill. Warnock will also probably go too. If we sell at a loss, which we'd have to with Blackman, Johnson, Camara and Weimann, the amortisation payments have to be taken from the figure that we get in. There is a good chance that we'd actually end up with a book profit (which is what FFP uses) something close to zero, maybe even a small loss. Sadly, if we want to generate profit it will have to cone from Hughes, Martin or Hendrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 13 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Warnock will also probably go too. Warnock's out of contract in the Summer anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just now, CornwallRam said: If we sell at a loss, which we'd have to with Blackman, Johnson, Camara and Weimann, the amortisation payments have to be taken from the figure that we get in. There is a good chance that we'd actually end up with a book profit (which is what FFP uses) something close to zero, maybe even a small loss. Sadly, if we want to generate profit it will have to cone from Hughes, Martin or Hendrick. Wouldn't be too upset if we sold martin or hendrick. We have to keep hughes and thorne though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satty atwal Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, McLovin said: Wouldn't be too upset if we sold martin or hendrick. We have to keep hughes and thorne though. U talk alot of sense. Hughes and thorne irreplaceable but anyone else.... highest bidder please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmo Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Grant, Russell, Weimann, Shotton, Baird, and maybe one of Johnson or Hendrick, probably Johnson if his form does not improve, Martin and Bent. Bring in a new striker to build around from the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Consider all bids but for me keep the young ones as they have a future, hopefully with us at a high standard, by that I mean hendrick Hughes Thorne (I would sell ince as he drives me nuts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryram Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Wouldn't get a great deal for Martin to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostedRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Starting to believe this group of players might have had their day. It's been fun whilst it latest, but they have failed in the last 2 years to get promoted and hopefully not this year, but looking more likely. very reminiscent of 93-94 season, local owner pumped in millions for underachieving squad, new manager arrives sells prima donnas and gets promoted on remains and few cheap signings (Jim smiths first season for the young ones). Id probaly look at getting rid of grant (don't need two number 1s) keogh (although he's better this year) warnock (getting old) albentosa, shotton, Pearce baird One of Hendrick or Bryson (can't keep all the midfielders happy) and possibly Johnson to cut out losses. ince (he's not a team player and you need them to get out of this league) bent (drain on wages) Russell (should we be expecting more than workman like performance from an attacking player - like goals) and potenially Martin. Oh and sammon alot of players are still suffering hangovers from previous promotion failures. So fresh start fresh all is best. As mentioned you can't get rid of all this years signings due to deppreciation values being taken into account on FFP, so I've been conservative on my sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Easiest way to do this is just to ask: Who, from the list of players that came in this season, deserves to stay? Carson, Shacks, Olsson and Butterfield? Maybe Ince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostedRam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Easiest way to do this is just to ask: Who, from the list of players that came in this season, deserves to stay? Carson, Shacks, Olsson and Butterfield? Maybe Ince? Ince - no to idle, got all the ability just doesn't use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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