Raul Albentosa

[Curtains]

This seems fitting

 

Followed by this.

http://youtu.be/Z46k_G1uc6E

[cheron85]

Sounds like a Spanish Bucko.

 

El Bucko

[-JW-]

This is the horrendous google translation...

The Eibar requires that the termination clause is deposited in the LFP while English team wants to pay him 600,000 euros directly and not run fiscal risks

The departure of Ra

[robglosta]

'Mon Derbs wrap this up, this is the sort of signing which could end up being worth 10m in a couple of seasons.

[rammieib]

How did the Herrera to Man Utd transfer work out? Same scenario of a buy out clause. I'm sure DCFC have enough contacts to work this out. I am no expect but why the league cannot pay the

[duncanjwitham]

How did the Herrera to Man Utd transfer work out? Same scenario of a buy out clause. I'm sure DCFC have enough contacts to work this out. I am no expect but why the league cannot pay the

[jono]

If he is as good as the hype and if we sign him then 600k for a prem class CB is exceptional business

There are 2 ifs there .. Fingers crossed. Great teams are built on CB pairings. Does he fit with Isak vis a vis left foot / right foot I wonder ?

[Kernow]

Right so Eibar are kicking up a fuss because they don't want to lose one of their best players, so demand that we pay more for him even though they're only going to get the original

[eddie]

Right so Eibar are kicking up a fuss because they don't want to lose one of their best players, so demand that we pay more for him even though they're only going to get the original

[May Contain Nuts]

Pathetic? Maybe, but if it's standard procedure in Spain then they have every right.

[Kernow]

On the other hand, we played hard ball over Bryson last summer, so I suggest that we are patient.

 

We offered him a new contract and he signed that instead.

 

Albentosa has already turned down offers for a new deal. They'll lose him for free in the summer so it seems they're willing to do that rather than take

[rammieib]

Just done some reading up on Herrera. Man Utd paid his transfer fee into Herrer's account, he then paid the money to the Spanish authorities which granted the release from his contract. They got around the income tax by declaring that he has/will spend over half the year living in the UK thus not complying or needing that rule.

So compare this scenario to DCFC buying Albentosa. Derby thought the club would accept the money but they hold firm saying no. This appeases supporters a little more and keeps the player here for a little longer. DCFC surprised and shocked by this need to therefore arrange a transfer into Albentosa's account of the money. Before DCFC are prepared to do this a contract letter needs to be drawn up that the player signs to say he will transfer this money. However, DCFC have a problem, because they don't know how to transfer the money and declare it as non VAT payable. (VAT exists even on European payments). So DCFC get some specialised lawyers in to check into the legalities of this. Then a contract for the bank transfer is drawn up, but hey, it's in English And Spanish is requested by the player. So DCFC request a Spanish lawyer to translate the document into Spanish. Finally it's done and the player signs. So DCFC go to the bank and transfer the money (assume the money is already in the he account to transfer) and it's done by CHAPS so it shows up on the same day in Albentosa's account.

Now the player needs to arrange transfer to the Spanish FA. However he cannot go to the bank yet because he has to train with Eibar because he is still their player. Training finishes but the banks are closed. So this runs into the next day when he arranges transfer. He does that and fills in a form for the Spanish football authorities. However, I am sure there will be a technicality with this and it gets sent back. Meanwhile the players agent is checking with the Spanish tax authorities that the

[sage]

The way the rules are written in Spain, the player actually has to buy out his own contract. So Albentosa has to personally hand over

[rammieib]

I would have thought we will split the difference on the 27% and pay Eibar

[CornwallRam]

Actually rammieib's post raises another question.

 

I'm guessing that Eibar won't allow him to have a medical until he (we) buys his contract out.

 

So we will effectively need to buy him without one or get him to do a Tyrone Mears and climb out of the window to catch the first plane to Castle Donington.

[Kernow]

If he's on a three year contract is that not good enough proof he'll be here for more than 6 months?

 

I mean it's no guarantee but unless a foreign club puts in a big offer in the summer then he'll be here in July, which is 6 months away.

[sage]

No I think the player doesn't have to pay the 27% if he doesn't live in the country for more than half a year.

The strange one is why not offer Eibar an extra

[Kernow]

Actually rammieib's post raises another question.

 

I'm guessing that Eibar won't allow him to have a medical until he (we) buys his contract out.

 

So we will effectively need to buy him without one or get him to do a Tyrone Mears and climb out of the window to catch the first plane to Castle Donington.

 

Send someone to Spain, get Albentosa to take us to his local park, have a jog around, medical done.

[duncanjwitham]

If he's on a three year contract is that not good enough proof he'll be here for more than 6 months?

 

I mean it's no guarantee but unless a foreign club puts in a big offer in the summer then he'll be here in July, which is 6 months away.

 

Having checked up, the Spanish Tax Year is the calendar year (i.e. Jan 1st to Dec 31st). If you spend more than 183 days resident in span, you have to pay tax there.  So in theory, if he moved back to Spain in the summer, he could end up with a huge tax bill.  

[Kernow]

Having checked up, the Spanish Tax Year is the calendar year (i.e. Jan 1st to Dec 31st). If you spend more than 183 days resident in span, you have to pay tax there.  So in theory, if he moved back to Spain in the summer, he could end up with a huge tax bill.  

 

Pre-season usually starts late June doesn't it? Lets say he has 7 weeks off between the end of this season and the start of pre-season and goes to Spain for the entire time. Add that to the time he's currently spent their this year, let's say that's 3 weeks to be on the generous side, that takes his time in Spain for 2015 to 10 weeks. 10 x 7 = 70 which is nowhere near the 183 days tax condition so he'd be fine.