Cam the Ram Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Mascarell played DM against Charlton for 90 minutes and wasn't subbed off was he. Well I'm imagining things then because I was certain he was subbed off for Chris Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Eustace is better in away games. Mascarell in home games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I don't want to seem to be criticising Eustace too much though. It's true that we do have two CDMs in Thorne and Mascarell that are technically more skilled and suit our play better. Eustace would get starts in any championship team, reflected in us giving him starts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Mascarell is a far superior passer and dictates play way more than Eustace, we lose some physicality but he offers far more supporting the rest of the midfield building attacks. Great set pieces as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Well so far Eustace is first choice and Mascarell an able back up for when Eustace needs a rest. And what a disaster that plan has proved to be. It's not like we're top of the league and through to the quarter final of the League Cup or anything is it? IIABDFI Thats a terrible view . Would you like to tell me if we could be clear at the top or not. Did you enjoy the Wigan game and Ipswich and Millwall and Cardiff at home. If it ain't broke don't fix it well maybe Thorne should never have come in for Eustace ever then by that theory . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 McClaren hasn't taken Eustace off as much when it's really obvious his legs only last about 60 minutes. We've learned CDM is the most important position. It was scary how good we were with Thorne (The messiah). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Mascarell has earned his place now I think. After Blackpool he was unlucky to left out for Wigan Then he was and Eustace was poor. Then last night he put in another good display. He's earned the shirt now imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 different players suit different games. For example in some away games we may need a physical presence so in that case we would play eustace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Well I'm imagining things then because I was certain he was subbed off for Chris MartinYou were correct it was after 68 minutes I read it wrong sorry about that but I think Calero came on with Martin when Dawkins and Mascarell went off. Martin is a key player for us up front as he was last night and it was a great strike by Calero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Thats a terrible view . Would you like to tell me if we could be clear at the top or not. Did you enjoy the Wigan game and Ipswich and Millwall and Cardiff at home. If it ain't broke don't fix it well maybe Thorne should never have come in for Eustace ever then by that theory . Yes we could be clear at the top if things had been done differently, or we could be in the bottom half. It's impossible to know what might have happened, but we do know what has. 80% Eustace and 20% Mascarell has got us here, which'll do nicely for me. When Thorne is ready he will become first choice again as he's probably the best player in the league, but that probably won't happen before March if it happens at all this season. But until then, I'd stick with Eustace for as long as our form holds. If we start to slip down the table then we try Mascarell for a few games to see if that works better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Yes we could be clear at the top if things had been done differently, or we could be in the bottom half. It's impossible to know what might have happened, but we do know what has. 80% Eustace and 20% Mascarell has got us here, which'll do nicely for me. When Thorne is ready he will become first choice again as he's probably the best player in the league, but that probably won't happen before March if it happens at all this season. But until then, I'd stick with Eustace for as long as our form holds. If we start to slip down the table then we try Mascarell for a few games to see if that works better. I totally disagree with that view which is my perogotive What's more my home game viewing is totally ruined by this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Everything people praise Eustace for, and tout as the reason he should be in the team, is what Mascarell is better at. Mascarell is more likely to put in a tackle, get on the ball, win his battles and so forth. In his one start in the league he made over 100 touches, I don't believe Eustace has done that in a Derby shirt. I like Eustace, but Mascarell is better in all aspects. Like Thorne, until we play him regularly, I genuinely believe we're limiting our own potential. Agree with this 100%. Only point you missed is the fact Mascarell has the quickness and agility to cover sideline to sideline, and not act like a Matador when a player runs at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Oh my days. What's with this fascination about Eustace holding the team back.... He's been part of probably the most successful the team have been for the best part of the year. He has his limitations no doubt.... So does Mascarell. This obsession with him not being good enough is a tad embarrassing to be honest, my own opinion obviously. Do I expect him to be in the team on by end of the season? Probably not.... Mascarell is the better player... I have no doubt. But this thread has been started to mock and bash Eustace purely because the original poster doesn't like Eustace.... Get a grip.... Scapegoat alley on here.... I really can't believe people cant be happy with being top after 13/14 games and in league QF.... Rant well and truly over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Oh my days Are you going to tie me up with piano wire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Are you going to tie me up with piano wire? I was then I realised I pressed post by mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Oh my days. What's with this fascination about Eustace holding the team back.... He's been part of probably the most successful the team have been for the best part of the year. He has his limitations no doubt.... So does Mascarell. This obsession with him not being good enough is a tad embarrassing to be honest, my own opinion obviously. Do I expect him to be in the team on by end of the season? Probably not.... Mascarell is the better player... I have no doubt. But this thread has been started to mock and bash Eustace purely because the original poster doesn't like Eustace.... Get a grip.... Scapegoat alley on here.... I really can't believe people cant be happy with being top after 13/14 games and in league QF.... Rant well and truly over.Nothing to do with knocking Eustace if you read what I wrote you will see I said Eustace maybe deserves praise. That doesn't mean I want him to be 1st choice DM all the time. I havent enjoyed home games all the time this season but realize we are top of the League which is a good come back for a lot of people its true. Well done to all at Rams for being top of the League and in the quarter finals. At the IPRO I hear people moaning about the way we play sometimes and we pay our money so let's not pretend we are in a library. Do you want me not to have an opinion if that's the case come out and say your opinion is carp. I honestly think what I'm saying is correct. We all have our views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 It didn't do Thorne any harm to watch the master at work for a few weeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 It didn't do Thorne any harm to watch the master at work for a few weeks...Didnt know he'd been watching Xabi Alonso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@M Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Which player you would rather have depends on what you want. If you want more flair and an even higher tempo, then Mascarell is your guy. If you want an experienced leader with a track record of keeping things tight ( and with some ability!!) then Eustace is the one for you. The fact that with Eustace in the team we average approximately 0.3 more points per league game than without, since he arrived, is some indication of why he is picked. Personally, I like the policy of breaking Mascarell in easily, as I heard a rumour from a golfing mate that he will sign in the summer. This makes sense as to why he is not being thrown in now, but I have no doubt he could play the English DM role eventually. At the moment he has been trained in the Spanish DM role, more of a passing anchor than tackler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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