Ovis aries Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Strange but after 6 games we were better off than Burnley , and we were even NOT bottom of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 We had no goals in us that season, and we couldn't defend. Burnley also have no goals in them, but in fairness to the Clarets they have a far better defence than what we had. I can see them getting enough close wins together to remain largely respectable. Still almost 100% guaranteed to go down and with less than 30 points also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 First season I started watching the Rams and regardless of how bad the season was, I really liked the enthusiasm of the fans from what I saw on streams/tv,websites,etc regardless of the score. Been a Derby fan since that season, and have never looked back since. I agree with Bris. Burnley this season I feel are slightly better in some areas than that Derby team and will imo get more than 11 no question. With that being said, no way imo they do not get relegated. I love the Rams, but it will take quite a ummm 'special' squad to get less than 11 points, if it ever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Burnley on Sunday, like us, were also in that unique position where their XI was actually worse than the XI that won them promotion. Following the injuries to Ings and Vokes, they actually look worse - goes to show what an utter mess they made of the summer window and preparing for a season in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Ram Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think the fact that West Brom got 4 against Burnley, yet they managed a 0-0 draw against United says it all. If they set out to defend, they might scrape a goalless draw... but in games where they think they have a chance, the second they start attacking they'll get cut apart. I think they'll get 19 or 20 points. We had a helluva lot of bad luck that season. But then again, we were better off than them at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 No excuses, we were terrible that season, but the Premier League is also a lot weaker than what it was six years ago. Gone are the days where three of the top four regularly make the Champions League semi-finals. The likes of Aston Villa, Bolton, Boro, Fulham, Reading etc. that season were far better than the likes of Hull, West Brom, Palace, QPR, Sunderland and Newcastle United this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think the fact that West Brom got 4 against Burnley, yet they managed a 0-0 draw against United says it all. If they set out to defend, they might scrape a goalless draw... but in games where they think they have a chance, the second they start attacking they'll get cut apart. I think they'll get 19 or 20 points. We had a helluva lot of bad luck that season. But then again, we were better off than them at this point. Agreed mate. I could see Burnley reaching 19 points plus. And we did have some back luck that season, which led to just 11 points. Imo it will take tons of bad luck, and pretty awful players, for a squad to get less than 11 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 11 point season? I have no idea what you are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 For anyone to break the record, it would have to take the following things to happen: 1 - The PL once again becomes the best league with all the best players 2 - A team to get promoted, and then actually get worse over the summer and winter transfer windows 3 - The squad to give up, not try and cause no ends of trouble 4 - A number of managerial changes, with each new boss worse than the last one 5 - Bad luck with injuries 6 - Conceding a number of injust last minute goals to destroy what little confidence might have remained Basically all of the above happened to us. It was a unique season, and which IMO will never be repeated. But who cares? I've forgotten that year already and now we're light years away from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 For anyone to break the record, it would have to take the following things to happen: 1 - The PL once again becomes the best league with all the best players 2 - A team to get promoted, and then actually get worse over the summer and winter transfer windows 3 - The squad to give up, not try and cause no ends of trouble 4 - A number of managerial changes, with each new boss worse than the last one 5 - Bad luck with injuries 6 - Conceding a number of injust last minute goals to destroy what little confidence might have remained Basically all of the above happened to us. It was a unique season, and which IMO will never be repeated. But who cares? I've forgotten that year already and now we're light years away from that. Agreed. That season is not one I like to ponder on too much. Our current squad is strong, and as you say way better off in several different ways from that one (Depth, coaches,etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Ram Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 For anyone to break the record, it would have to take the following things to happen: 1 - The PL once again becomes the best league with all the best players 2 - A team to get promoted, and then actually get worse over the summer and winter transfer windows 3 - The squad to give up, not try and cause no ends of trouble 4 - A number of managerial changes, with each new boss worse than the last one 5 - Bad luck with injuries 6 - Conceding a number of injust last minute goals to destroy what little confidence might have remained Basically all of the above happened to us. It was a unique season, and which IMO will never be repeated. But who cares? I've forgotten that year already and now we're light years away from that. I hope Burnley break the record, but I'd also be shocked. Then again: They've done fxck all in the summer transfer window... who's to say that Ings, Vokes and Shackell won't leave in January because of a falling out or something? I guess we can't tell if the squad will give up or not Dyche is imo a good manager but if the chairman's trigger-happy, they could end up appointing Di Canio or somebody They've had a lot of bad luck with injuries already - Vokes is out long-term and Ings is injured at the moment as well They've not conceded many last-minute goals yet but they did miss a late penalty that would have got them three points away to Palace. Then again, the Prem is much weaker now. I even think that our current squad could do OK; we'd go down but certainly with a lot more than 11 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Joke is they didn't even go up via playoffs. A definite case of the damage limitation, cash cow strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 They'll scrabble past the record low but only because they will beat the likes of newcastle and villa at theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I thought they'd struggle to score goals this season, but also be hard to break down. But taking beatings from teams like West Brom who are also fighting against relegation this season is surely going to shatter confidence. Only so many beatings a defence can take before they all go Leacockle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Last year they were mazing defensively. When they didnt score, they managed lots of 0-0s by never giving anyway anything at the back. Relyed massively on Ings' goals, and the goals from the ings / Vokes partnership. Now both are injured they are a tad screwed. Infact they have a bad injury sitiaton in midfield this time around too. Still think barring the worst luck in the world no team will break our record ever or for a very very long time. The Sunderland team a couple of seasons before ours were worse in that they lost more games, but they did at least win 3 to our 1. Thus a greater points tally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I don't see anyone taking the record off us ever. Just think about how insanely low 11 points actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think Burnley will give it a good go, but they won't get it. 18 points for Burnley, me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I fear 11 pts will be our record for many a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Then again, the Prem is much weaker now. I even think that our current squad could do OK; we'd go down but certainly with a lot more than 11 points. Pessimist! I honestly think we'd be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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