VulcanRam Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Waiting 4 years is the difference. When we lost against QPR I was not too bothered. I recognize how good a side we are. We only have to wait 12 or so weeks for it all to begin again. Where as who knows where England will be in 4 years time. I was really enjoying the WC up until now. I think I would prefer it if we were not involved full stop so I could just enjoy the damn thing. I'm the other way round, was absolutely gutted last month, but not too bothered about England, will support them and want them to win, but not too fussed either way. I normally love the World Cup, but got to say that while I'm enjoying it so far, the gloom of the end of Derby's season has tempered it and still hasn't quite lifted. Hopefully as the tournament progresses that will change. I'll be fine on Wednesday when we find out when we play Rotherham away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 could have bin .. but i ended up with her mate.. Who, Jimmy Savile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Takes some buffing does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 i'm off down 'The Range' in a bit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I'm traumatised...they stopped the presses last night for the game and I was re-routed to.....Nottingump with a load of Sunday Times ( ?) had me Rams hat on while I tipped mind, got a few looks but no lip. Obviously I didn't see the game but I took heart from Uruguay getting tonked so I still think we'll get through. COYE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake n Bake Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Drop Rooney and Baines bring in Barkley and Shaw. 6 points from Uruguay and Costa rica and Italy will be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Think England did ok. They were battered tactically though. Italy overloaded Rooney's flank. On the left Italy had nothing. When they came out for the second half and saw England had switched Wellbeck to England's right they probably wondered if this was going to be a draw. 5 minutes later they were 2v1 vs Baines. Then again and again. England have often played Milner when they don't need him. Would have been the answer. Right from the start Pirlo and De Rossi were going to upstage the superstar Steven Gerrard. Pirlo has always been better even before itv discovered him in 2012. And since Gerrard's legs went (but not the love in) De Rossi has been a far better defensive midfielder. He's was never far behind in the first place believe it or not. England need to move past these big names. They're just names. I think Gerrard was a waste of a shirt and has been for a while. Stop doing this half arsed "young lions" thing. Do it!! Right through. They're trying to accommodate Gerrard. There was no role for him last night imo. Never really is. What a chance to catch the Italians out. The pace and direct approach looked a genuine surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Wouldn't have Rooney or welbeck on a free at Derby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I compared Gerrard to Pirlo last night. Pirlo yet again showed what world class is when it matters. Pirlo just seems to to give Italy that extra few seconds on the ball in tight spots. Gerrard sprays 50 yard horizontal balls to wingers who struggle to get it under control before a defender is bearing down on them. Bris is probably right, they have a few world class players and we have some good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 What annoyed me last night was those "ole!" moments. You know, when the opposition does lots of passing moves and England cannot get the ball off them. Rooney should not play in the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 wow rooney the scapegoat yet again, sets up a goal and still we call for his head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 They scored two good goals, we scored one.For the rest of the game I thought we shaded it, wecreated more chances for a start, we must have been playing OK.We have to win our next two games, and I believe we can, cmon England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 They scored two good goals, we scored one.For the rest of the game I thought we shaded it, wecreated more chances for a start, we must have been playing OK.We have to win our next two games, and I believe we can, cmon England.PSAlthough we could qualify with a draw and a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 some of these comments about wayne make me embarrassed to be an england fan, we should be getting behind the lads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I got too pissed, don't even remember watching it but reading this I take it Gerrard had a bad game....did you watch him play for Liverpool last season? Past it my arse. Rooney bad game as well, wasn't he played out of position?....Messi thinks he's world class and I agree, players have bad games, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I can't believe I am reading that Italy are not a good a side? Yeah, let's slag off the 4 time winners. England did as well as could be expected, no shame at all, just outdone by the better team. I thought there weren't the ludicrous expectations of England this year, is being narrowly beaten by one of footballs great nations such a disaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 wow rooney the scapegoat yet again, sets up a goal and still we call for his head? In fairness although Rooney's cross was a good one, the pass from Sterling to set up the opening in the first place was world Hughes class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Looking back at my alcohol induced posts last night I may have been a little too scathing. One thing I will always say though. Steven Gerrard was past it for England after 2006. Agree with other posters we are trying to accommodate him, sad thing is and I wouldn't wish it on anybody.... Only a injury will force him out this side. Looking back England defended well but got battered tactically in Midfield. But l also think we could have played another hour and we wouldn't have scored again. Been lots of open games this World Cup, but whoever has the meanest defence will this thing. And I have a sneaking suspicion the Italians might just do it again. They play very well as a team.... And work very hard. That will get them a very long way. You can have all the possession etc you want. But out of all the teams I've seen. Italy seem the most able.... Apologies for my alcohol induced outbursts at stupid o clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I can't believe I am reading that Italy are not a good a side? Yeah, let's slag off the 4 time winners. England did as well as could be expected, no shame at all, just outdone by the better team. I thought there weren't the ludicrous expectations of England this year, is being narrowly beaten by one of footballs great nations such a disaster? Sorry but this Italy team didn't win it 4 times, that's like losing to Forest and saying well they won the European cup twice so no shame in losing to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Sorry but this Italy team didn't win it 4 times, that's like losing to Forest and saying well they won the European cup twice so no shame in losing to them My point is...they are pretty much always a good side, the players may change but as a nation they have that winning mentality. Club football and international football are different beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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