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Is nostalgia sad? Can the young be nostalgic?


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Great post.

I can imagine 10 years ago being a lot different to the young uns.

For me? Seems like yesterday, so for me,nothing much changes.

Technology mind you does, and that's a big part of today's youth.

I do love old local history though, not so much football, but industry.

Err, sensible post, no pun...

 

Who are you and what have you done with our Boycie!!??

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I agree. I love all old football experiences.

Thing is, I haven't got any stories to tell. What age does that happen?

Oh yeah, we invaded the pitch at FT v Palace, a Leicester fan once confused me for a fellow Leicester fan during some trouble at Filbert St and tried to protect me from Derby fans. I saw the floodlights fail against Wimbledon, a team that no longer exists.

Not going to be getting calls from Hollywood is it?

It's not looking good either. In 20 years time I might be able to say I was there when Derby finished 20pts behind Arsenal. We bought a player for £15m

Ooooooooooooh

 

All those things will become better with time, like a good wine, it improves with age (and a bit of exaggeration of course).  ;)

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I get quite nostalgic about the mid to late 90’s. In the grand scheme of things it’s really not that long ago but even so, so much has changed in football and not for the better. The change is even more extreme when compared to the 70’s and 80’s. It’s odd, but while I’m only 27 I also get quite nostalgic about the Clough and Mackay teams of the 70's. I’d have done anything to have been a football fan back then.

 

Football just doesn’t seem to inspire the same amount of passion as it used to. It feels sterile. As many have alluded to, the lack of competition makes supporting your team less exciting. The best we could ever hope for in the current climate is a mid-table finish in the Premier. Maybe pushing for that 5th spot. I’m Derby till I die, through thick and thin, regardless of division, but I have to admit sometimes I feel like I’m just going through the motions. I wish the Man City’s and Chelsea’s of this world, and above all Sky TV, would bugger off to a European Super League and allow the fans to have back the football they know and love.

 

It’s a shame but, being only 10 at the time, I never really appreciated how football was in the 90’s. I long again for the days of “Bald Eagle, Barmy Army”, when an away game didn’t cost £100+ and ofcourse the good old BBG.

 

Now excuse me a moment while I wipe away the tears.

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Nostalgia for those glorious days......

 

 

I've bored people before about this but they can skip this and read more serious and interesting stuff instead, like Cisse's watches for instance.....

 

Catching the train to Derby from Utch was an adventure in itself. If we were playing a team from the north west of England then the train would be full of them. So, before we even get within 20 miles of Derby we are boarding a train full of Everton, Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City or Stoke fans. (In the 70's we dint play Wigan, Bolton, Blackburn etc) There would be any number between 10 and 25 of us depending on money, work or bail!

If it was Stoke or Man Utd then it was pretty serious as they would want to kick the ***** out of you. Scarves and badges would be hid until we pulled into Derby station then right at the last minute we'd whip out the scarves and give it "Derby, clap, clap, clap, Derby, clap, clap, clap" or "Derby aggro, Derby aggro, allo, allo.."  then run like fook over the bridge and out onto Midland Road. Occasionally, this ridiculous behaviour would result in a few of us getting belted by the other fans or an occasional slap from a copper.

When you're 16-18 years old its hilarious. Being chased or even hit is just a badge of honour to be worn with pride when you re-tell the story next day.

 

This was the mid 70's, the era of unorganised football hooliganism, no plotting or planning, no arranged "meets", if you travelled you were a target!

 

Once out on the street we were heroes as we'd go into town and tell tales of how we'd faced Stoke, Leeds or Tottenham on the station and lived to tell the tale....a few drinks in town then the march up London Road or Ossie Road shadowing the away fans escort.......giving it the big un, singing, chanting, running, laughing, dodging a coppers truncheon, taking the piss, being scared and exhilarated at the same time, adrenaline kicking in as you get near the Baseball Ground, scuffles and roars as the away fans queued at the Colombo Street entrances, odd groups of away fans being attacked in Shaftesbury Crescent or by the Baseball Hotel.

 

Piling into the Popside, pushing your way to the back, the atmosphere already electric, doing all the "war dance" songs then building up to the huge roar as the players came out....singing every players name in turn before watching the best team in the land smash some nobodies like Chelsea or Liverpool or Arsenal or Man City.....we were better!

 

The whole day was amazing from start to finish.

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There was an adrenalin rush and a fear factor about going to and from the ground.

You could hear fans charging up and down the streets and scattering.

Mounted police charging through the ranks.

Who were you going to walk into around the next corner?

I even saw a mass brawl in the Ley Stand once.

Still......there's always fan cam.

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Fantastic post OP.

 

I think you can be plenty nostalgic under 50 - Although we all live in the 'here and now' of DCFC, we will all no doubt harken back to days past when we were experiencing ';the best of times'. For me, it would be the Arthur Cox era and the Saunders/Goddard frontline - or the TBE era with Eranio, Baiano and Wanchope. Those were great great days, especially if you weren't around in the early to mid 70s...... ;)

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May I in all modesty refer my friend to post No.5.

Okay, you got me, I didn't read the rest of the thread.

 

But you're right, the joke was much better the first time around. It's just not the same anymore...(Wait a sec...)

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Is it not just that footballs just much more ubiquitous these days and therefore more disposable.

You needed to hold on to memories of pre-sky, pre-internet football because that's all you had and therefore you invested yourself in it more.

You just don't need to now.

It's simultaneously everywhere and yet instantly forgettable.

Also, I'm sure there's a part of us that just sit uneasily around how soulless and corporate football has become.

And reminiscing about pre-sky days, you can see how the club was integral to the community and not just a business which sells football as well as a skinny latte, a Greggs pasty and a substitution sponsored by a tyre maker.

Football offers a lot more these days, but you're willing to forget a lot of it.

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Great topic!

 

I'm in the slightly under 50's age group and I came to football in the mid 70's as a young 'un.

 

Yes I can remember the aggro, the less than charitable chants, the hard as nails players, the mud-bath pitches and being crammed onto terraces in mostly dilapidated stadiums. I can also remember a massive sense of belonging to something, a massive sense of affinity to my fellow Derby fans, our players and our club.

 

Life was harder then; work was harder, dirtier and more dangerous; there were strikes, fighting with police on the picket lines; the country was in upheaval. To a great extent life was also much simpler then, with very little else to entertain the working man.

 

The working man needed some release and that was football (and the pub).

 

If football has become bland, sanitised and safe then it is a reflection on society and life as a whole. As our lives have become more comfortable, less dangerous and dirty with a multitude of ways of entertaining ourselves so football has had to change to compete and embrace new technology.

 

I do think that in the process of adapting to the new world football has lost something, something that has probably gone for ever. 

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