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Being Human & Dr Who are top tbf. But Toby didn't write anymore BH's so it's not on now. Got all the boxsets though. Dr Who is an institution in itself now, it's massive.

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 I get my news from RT and my entertainment from the internet. TV today is mainly for children and for oldies who don't know about XBMC.

 

I love RT, gives a different viewpoint from the British media; whilst I don't take everything it tells me as gospel it, in conjunction with the British media, helps provide a more balanced view of the world.

 

I'm nearer my 50's than my 30's and I know all about XBMC.

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I can see where the OP is coming from, when discussing the BBC peoples political views tend to shape their analysis.

 

Taking that out of it the standard of the output is a shadow of it's former self, Sports coverage has gone from great to crap, where has the decent comedy gone, News coverage has dropped below other channels, even Channel 4 does it better. Celebrity presenters like Baker, Norton and Ross who would have been non-entities in days past get paid fortunes.

 

In summary I rarely watch any BBC, I wouldn't pay the licence fee if it was optional, that it is compulsory seems to generate the complacent status quo. Time for a review perhaps on it's funding.

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It's easy to find fault in such a large and bloated organisation.

And it does get things wrong....

But on the whole, it's output is unbelievable.

Everyone's referencing it's ability to compete with mainstream telly. And it just about holds its own.

We can mention top gear, Sherlock etc which the BBC has actually licensed globally earning millions.

But that's just the tip of the ice berg

You have the iplayer

24 hr news (respected the world over)

National and regional radio stations. Catering for high brow, popular music, spoke word, world music, foreign language tastes and requirements.

There's even a Scottish language station, FFS and that's a dead language in itself.

You'd never get something like 6music anywhere commercially, which offers music and culture largely unattached to a commercial sensibility or remit

You can even listen to your beloved rams when you can't make the game!!

Plus the fact, the licence fee has stayed the same (in real terms) for years and yet the output has increased.

It gets vilified by the Daily mail, but isn't allowed to respond.

It shares a portion of the licence fee with Channel 4 as well!!

I'm genuinely not some flag waving Marxist/socialist.

Far from it.

But it is a really good example of something being bigger than the sum of its parts contributed to by the whole country.

I'm massively proud of it.

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Again, I strongly disagree.

 

I'd happily pay the license fee twice over if it stopped Murdoch and the Daily Mail getting their grasp on this country with their grubby little hands any tighter.

Yes, Murdoch's gang is very unpleasant, but, people have a choice as to whether or not to fund it, this is not the case with the BBC.

The BBC cannot have it both ways, either it remains publically funded, in which case it must be both accountable and even- handed in all spheres. Or, if the the BBC wishes to behave like other broadcasters, ie have a political agenda and have a commercial arm then it must take it's chances in the open marketplace.

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The BBC are more than just a TV channel.  For £149 a year you get advert free TV, advert free local radio.  HBO, or over here Sky and Virgin you pay way more for it and get adverts!

 

The BBC enabled children to access computers through The BBC Computer Literacy Programme.  It has the world service and  is used by the forces and people around the world who are being kept in the dark by tyrannic governments.

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The BBC are more than just a TV channel.  For £149 a year you get advert free TV, advert free local radio.  HBO, or over here Sky and Virgin you pay way more for it and get adverts!

 

Don't ask why but I watched the 'One Show' the other night. First item was about the music people play in their cars. Next up was guest Simon Mayo talking about, guess what? "BBC Radio 2: Simon Mayo Drive Time" out on 4/3/14.

Looked like an advert to me.

 

The BBC enabled children to access computers through The BBC Computer Literacy Programme.

 

Fair enough

 

  It has the world service and  is used by the forces and people around the world who are being kept in the dark by tyrannic governments.

 

Like ours.

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I watched the One Show once because Brian Wilson was on it.

 

The interview was so ill-informed and amateurish that I resolved never to watch it ever again. And I haven't.

 

When the BBC panders to stereotypes about people's attention span and intelligence, it is awful.

 

When it respects its audience it is magnificent.

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I agree to a certain extent with the OP. I find the BBC's news content to be very left-wing biased - they appear very pro-EU, pro-immigration & I've lost count of the amount of seemingly inane potential policy statements made by Ed Milliband which occupy the headline slot on BBC's website & the lead story on the news. No other political party gets this amount of positive exposure. I find this particularly distasteful as by law we are all obliged to fund this organisation. I agree that Murdoch's papers are horribly right wing but none of you are forced to fund them are you?

 

I also think the quality of sports coverage has declined alarmingly in the past 10/15 years. Match of the Day is an absolute parody of a show, the Leicester League Show is beneath contempt & the nadir was having Michael Vaughan doing a roving reporter bit during a recent US Masters (& insulting Tiger Woods by getting the number of his previous titles wrong!)

 

That said, there are some elements of the BBC that are top class. Documentaries are a class above any other terrestrial channel, they've consistently showcased some of the best satirical humour that has emerged in the past 20 years & when abroad, I always seek out BBC World News for a little bit of "home".

 

It needs a spring clean of the rubbish & to follow a strictly neutral political agenda before voices to privatise it grow louder.

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I love RT, gives a different viewpoint from the British media; whilst I don't take everything it tells me as gospel it, in conjunction with the British media, helps provide a more balanced view of the world.

 

I'm nearer my 50's than my 30's and I know all about XBMC.

 

RT is the worst 'news' channel i've ever seen. it is almost the definition of propaganda, pure and simple. it's 'experts' and guests are mainly conspiracy theorists. Granted, it looks at some issues and stories which are not always covered as much in the majority of western media outlets. Compare BBC News' and RT's US sections.

 

AJE is far better, though is very biased in arab affairs. It is far more influential in the arab world than RT could ever dream to be in any region.

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I agree to a certain extent with the OP. I find the BBC's news content to be very left-wing biased - they appear very pro-EU, pro-immigration & I've lost count of the amount of seemingly inane potential policy statements made by Ed Milliband which occupy the headline slot on BBC's website & the lead story on the news. No other political party gets this amount of positive exposure. I find this particularly distasteful as by law we are all obliged to fund this organisation. I agree that Murdoch's papers are horribly right wing but none of you are forced to fund them are you?

 

I also think the quality of sports coverage has declined alarmingly in the past 10/15 years. Match of the Day is an absolute parody of a show, the Leicester League Show is beneath contempt & the nadir was having Michael Vaughan doing a roving reporter bit during a recent US Masters (& insulting Tiger Woods by getting the number of his previous titles wrong!)

 

That said, there are some elements of the BBC that are top class. Documentaries are a class above any other terrestrial channel, they've consistently showcased some of the best satirical humour that has emerged in the past 20 years & when abroad, I always seek out BBC World News for a little bit of "home".

 

It needs a spring clean of the rubbish & to follow a strictly neutral political agenda before voices to privatise it grow louder.

Interesting points there LCR. Pro EU is left wing bias? hmmm, not sure about that mate. The reason that the Tories took us into the EU and Labour kept us in is because both parties are controlled by the financial markets that rule the EU. 

Most "left wingers" would see us out of EU control if they could.

 

The far right and the far left are both anti-EU. The centre ground (Tory, Lib Dem and Labour) are all pro EU. 

 

Why didn't the Tories take us out of Europe during their 18 years of rule prior to Blair's Labour coming to power? Why has Dave reneged on his election promise to have a referendum on membership of the EU?

 

The BBC merely follows government on the big issues of the day. Outside of that, its excellent!

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I agree to a certain extent with the OP. I find the BBC's news content to be very left-wing biased - they appear very pro-EU, pro-immigration & I've lost count of the amount of seemingly inane potential policy statements made by Ed Milliband which occupy the headline slot on BBC's website & the lead story on the news. No other political party gets this amount of positive exposure. I find this particularly distasteful as by law we are all obliged to fund this organisation. I agree that Murdoch's papers are horribly right wing but none of you are forced to fund them are you?

 

I also think the quality of sports coverage has declined alarmingly in the past 10/15 years. Match of the Day is an absolute parody of a show, the Leicester League Show is beneath contempt & the nadir was having Michael Vaughan doing a roving reporter bit during a recent US Masters (& insulting Tiger Woods by getting the number of his previous titles wrong!)

 

That said, there are some elements of the BBC that are top class. Documentaries are a class above any other terrestrial channel, they've consistently showcased some of the best satirical humour that has emerged in the past 20 years & when abroad, I always seek out BBC World News for a little bit of "home".

 

It needs a spring clean of the rubbish & to follow a strictly neutral political agenda before voices to privatise it grow louder.

I take a lot of these points, but pro-immigration? Not really sure about that. That's not the message I pick up.

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Makes me laugh all this bias nonesense.

All left wingers moan that there bias to the right.

All right wingers moan that there bias to the left.

To conclude, they must be about right!

Seriously though I would love to open up bias on all TV news outlets like they do in America. Then you can watch how crackpot and funny it gets with them. You will see a much more sane judgement from viewers who will just switch off the bias channels and flick on one who remains as neutral as possible

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Makes me laugh all this bias nonesense.

All left wingers moan that there bias to the right.

All right wingers moan that there bias to the left.

To conclude, they must be about right!

Seriously though I would love to open up bias on all TV news outlets like they do in America. Then you can watch how crackpot and funny it gets with them. You will see a much more sane judgement from viewers who will just switch off the bias channels and flick on one who remains as neutral as possible

 

I like BBC but they are left -leaning liberal bias, and massively over-staffed. Eg whats all this about none all male panel games? Are there any male programming on Tv except for Sport and Top Gear? It will a be bake-offs, sewing,soaps , reality shows, dancing shows (on ice or not) Gok Wan etc etc. Even the Top Gear guys have grown their hair long and developed boobs.

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I like BBC but they are left -leaning liberal bias, and massively over-staffed. Eg whats all this about none all male panel games? Are there any male programming on Tv except for Sport and Top Gear? It will a be bake-offs, sewing,soaps , reality shows, dancing shows (on ice or not) Gok Wan etc etc. Even the Top Gear guys have grown their hair long and developed boobs.

Clarkson et al grew there boobs so the BBC could be errrr balanced. :p
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I like BBC but they are left -leaning liberal bias, and massively over-staffed. Eg whats all this about none all male panel games? Are there any male programming on Tv except for Sport and Top Gear? It will a be bake-offs, sewing,soaps , reality shows, dancing shows (on ice or not) Gok Wan etc etc. Even the Top Gear guys have grown their hair long and developed boobs.

Clarkson et al grew there boobs so the BBC could be errrr balanced. :p
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