VulcanRam Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Heard on the radio that if Pearce accepted, it would be to begin work at the end of the season, that might have changed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The following was an interesting read......... Billy Davies might not have been the proverbial dead man walking but he’d been living on borrowed time … It’s understandable that many people are shocked at his sacking .But the results on the pitch only paint half the picture. This has been more than a season in the making – and, to be honest, I’m surprised it took so long. Yes, many of Davies’ complaints were valid but his way of going about things has irked the board and many fans. The damage is irreparable. And the long and short of it is that his position was untenable. If Davies had just shut his mouth and got on with the job we might not be where we are. This could have been a lengthy reign, a chance to establish a legacy of successful free-flowing football… But Billy Davies is all about Billy Davies. And he’s repeated the same mistakes he made at Preston and Derby. The next chairman to be appoint him should be very wary. But I wish him well. Forest were struggling to re-establish themselves in the second tier of football when he arrived. Within six months he returned our pride; our belief; our place among the Championship’s top teams. Within 18 months he delivered the hope of promotion, a glimpse of the Promised Land. But he’d already sown the seeds of his demise. He was the right man at the right time for Forest but it was only ever going to be a short time. Davies is not a man for long-term building, someone who develops the youth players, who brings the whole club forwards as one — and that’s what we need now. Davies was the tempestuous affair we needed to stir our loins, return our self-confidence and restore that glint in our eye. And it was never going to last. The additions in the summer marked Forest out as one of the big spenders in the Championship — nine players at a cost of £5-6 million — but Davies behaved like a petulant child when he didn’t get his own way during the January transfer window. It’s anyone’s guess why we didn’t strengthen then — of course there’s no guarantees in football. Signings don’t equal promotion. His ongoing battle with the board continued throughout the season. Any failures could now be directed — rightly or wrongly — against the board. But lose the trust of your employer and you’re never really going to be fully supported. And let’s not forget his public posturing for the Celtic job as well as numerous rumours about links to other vacant jobs. Yes he’s ambitious — and that’s the kind of manager we want. But ambition for our club, not himself. Football, in the current economic climate, is about value-for-money, it’s about managing wages and living within your means. Yes, the chairman should occasionally splash out and spend a few million but you have to bring through young players and you have to look to the lower leagues for potential, rough diamonds and the odd bargain. As it turns out, so we’re led to believe, Davies turned down numerous players — both signings and loans — that did not fit his game plan. Davies isn’t one to compromise. Especially when he’s identified a couple of ‘stellar signings’. It’s always going to be impossible trying to work out fact, speculation, truth and rumour at Nottingham Forest. There’s too many ‘ifs’ and ‘maybes’… What would have happened if Davies had his way? Would he have been happy if we’d made a few of the signings he’d requested? Would we have been promoted? Arguably, he was only working with what he had but many fans point to the fact that after two years in the job he still didn’t appear to know our best formation. Worse still, he didn’t know his first XI. Our style of play was too easily influenced by opponents and, away from home, tactics were often devised to avoid defeat. Not negative perhaps but not playing to win. Again, look at the successful teams last season — you always knew the formation they’d line up, who the key men were and how they’d play. His constant playing down of the team and the squad — ‘too young, too naïve, not enough depth’ — might have been managing expectations but it could hardly have instilled confidence. One of his favourite refrains was ‘we are a top six side at best’. Clearly still smarting from his experience with Derby, maybe caution was necessary but when the difference between 24 teams is confidence then maybe caution isn’t what you need. Read more: http://seatpitch.co.uk/2011/06/13/why-billy-davies-had-to-go/#ixzz2xfD4NR2z .....it took me a while to realise that it was written after the last time they sacked wee billy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezzeetiger Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Checked in to the Boscolo in Budapest and at check in they ask where are you from, I said Derby, England. And the reply. Oh Shortened for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Pearce it is 2year contract but he starts in Summer ! No interference clause in contract ! Brazil to carry on until then I think. Pat Murphy just said on 5live that's what he understands and it will be announced on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Wonder if he'll manage to improve on the 30% win percentage he managed the last time he was there? Great appointment IMO....from our perspective. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Di Matteo was too slow. Michael Laudrup not thrown his hat in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Pearce is a sh!te manager, great appointment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Shortened for you Not surprised, Fawaz has adopted emu's as the new gumptards mascot as it always has its head stuck in the sand (aka fawaz's ***) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Just checked the table and it's getting tight for 6th as nobody seems to have the form to grab it. The gumps are still in it obviously, but Readings GD is much better. Be amusing if the 5-0 cost them a play-off spot on GD. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Be very, VERY careful if you go near LTLF tonight. They are so convinced that Pearce is taking over that the place is already knee-deep in jizz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 So they've basically given up on the play offs then, if they're happy for Brazil to carry on till the end of the season, it sounds like they've given it up as a dead duck. Which is daft, because if they got the right manager in they could still have a good go at 6th. If Pearce really has signed, but only from Summer, it shows he's got no faith in his ability to gain them the 1 or 2 points they we'd to get into 6th. Then what, Pearce is suddenly going to reignite everything next season. ******. He's going to need a season or two to settle. Mid table mediocrity or worse beckons. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 He has connections in the England under 21's Well, he did, they're all over 21 now. Bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Would be good to see that photo of him kissing the Ram on LTLF. (The badge that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Would be good to see that photo of him kissing the Ram on LTLF. (The badge that is) It would make no difference any road, they all say he was kissing a notts shirt underneath. I had a quick chat with Tin man ages ago about it as he was in the dressing room with them and he said he only wore a vest, nothing to do with florest & he only said it to appease the gumps (he didn't say gump but you know what i mean). They will keep denying it anyway no matter how many times we bring it up. Anyway, great appointment by them, good player, ***** manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DcFc Dyycheee Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Stuart Pearce set for Nottingham Forest at end of season - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26823304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Stuart Pearce. The man who got an England u21 beat in all 3 games in the u21 euros including Israel.. Also once put David James up front in a tactical choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 You've got to give it to Forest, they've managed to appoint a man who broke a record in the top-flight that we couldn't even manage!! Pearce failed to bring about an improvement in the 2006–07 season which saw Man City come close to relegation.[19] The club were again eliminated from the League Cup by a League One team, this time by Chesterfield. The side also scored just 10 goals at home in the league, and none after New Years Day in 2007, a record low in top-flight English football.[20] Pearce was sacked at the end of the season in May 2007.[21] They'd have been better off with Paul Jewell.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 It would make no difference any road, they all say he was kissing a notts shirt underneath. I had a quick chat with Tin man ages ago about it as he was in the dressing room with them and he said he only wore a vest, nothing to do with florest & he only said it to appease the gumps (he didn't say gump but you know what i mean). They will keep denying it anyway no matter how many times we bring it up. Anyway, great appointment by them, good player, ***** manager. Deny it all they like. We have the photographic evidence. Let's see them produce their's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Well played by Pearce, doesn't want to come into a injury crisis and have a failed to reach play offs with a squad that cost millions on his CV.Thing is, has anybody reminded him that he's a **** manager? should have gone in now, get sacked in May with a nice big pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 So are the Gumps putting on a brave face and declaring this a good appointment? Can tell they don't really mean it, they'd be over by now telling us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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