ilkleyram Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Interesting! Interesting. My view is Mclaren likes pace up front and will replace him as soon as he finds someone. You may be right pej, but don't forget that Jim Smith, and Steve, played Ron Willems in a very similar role to that Chris Martin is currently playing, with Dean Sturridge playing off him. Ron and Chrissy had similar strengths - able to control/hold the ball up/bring others into play both from midfield and strikers; able to pick a pass; and weren't shabby in front of goal either - and similar weaknesses, primarily a lack of out and out pace. Though I would argue that Martin's pace is mainly in his speed of thought - bit like Teddie Sheringham in that regard But all players have weaknesses, the issue is how you fit them into a team where their qualities flourish and others make up for the weakness. Alan Hinton couldn't head a ball or tackle to save his life, but his crossing and shooting were world class. It doesn't mean to say that he is necessarily a Premier League player where maybe pace is a more basic requirement - just as Ron Willems wasn't - but in this league and this team in my view he contributes significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormantonRam Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 If only we had someone as pacey as Sturridge up front with Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky1884 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 You may be right pej, but don't forget that Jim Smith, and Steve, played Ron Willems in a very similar role to that Chris Martin is currently playing, with Dean Sturridge playing off him. Ron and Chrissy had similar strengths - able to control/hold the ball up/bring others into play both from midfield and strikers; able to pick a pass; and weren't shabby in front of goal either - and similar weaknesses, primarily a lack of out and out pace. Though I would argue that Martin's pace is mainly in his speed of thought - bit like Teddie Sheringham in that regard But all players have weaknesses, the issue is how you fit them into a team where their qualities flourish and others make up for the weakness. Alan Hinton couldn't head a ball or tackle to save his life, but his crossing and shooting were world class. It doesn't mean to say that he is necessarily a Premier League player where maybe pace is a more basic requirement - just as Ron Willems wasn't - but in this league and this team in my view he contributes significantly. Interesting! Interesting. My view is Mclaren likes pace up front and will replace him as soon as he finds someone. Will it be 1 in 3 after 46 games though ? Didn't McLaren sign Mark Viduka (I think) too can't remember him being very quick. As long as we have quick people in the team to do his running I can't see the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stedcfc Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 If only we had someone as pacey as Sturridge up front with Martin. You mean Johnny Russell and Jamie Ward!?!?! I think its pretty obvious going forward we're as good as we need to be to get promoted. Its the defence that needs tightening. We've scored the most goals in the league! Are you people mad?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormantonRam Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 You mean Johnny Russell and Jamie Ward!?!?! I think its pretty obvious going forward we're as good as we need to be to get promoted. Its the defence that needs tightening. We've scored the most goals in the league! Are you people mad?! Not as quick as Daniel's Uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I would say Mason Bennett is currently being moulded into Dean Sturridge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 He used to be on MTV Chrissy Chrissy Now he's playing for Derby Chrissy Chrissy He sings a song, he scores a goal He's Derby right down to the soul Chrissy Martin, Derby's number 9 I'm here all week. Yep, and we'll be glad when half term's over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yep, and we'll be glad when half term's over I have another week after that, actually. Private school's the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 This thread has been derailed. Can we please focus on the songs that LR and I invented... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I have another week after that, actually. Private school's the best Your parents are paying teachers to go on holiday then? Think that deserves a whole chant of its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I'm thankful i've seen this thread because i have needed a good DCFC related moan to counter out my increasing optimism this past week. What a dire ******* song, truly embarrassing. Do these lot not ever think about any of the ***** they sing. The Craig Byrson song is just as bad as well, and that's before we get to the likes of Dale Cavesa, We love you etc etc. Nick and his little mob need to pack in their new songs, and the drum whilst were at it, (disclaimer - i have respect for Nick and his safe standing efforts/home atmosphere) as it's limiting the atmosphere on the road and making our away end rival the likes of Mk Dons and Reading for noise and wittiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Your parents are paying teachers to go on holiday then? Think that deserves a whole chant of its own. Well, we're at school longer to be fair. I have 5 hours of lessons a day (3 and a 1/2 on Wednesdays), considering some of my mates at college don't go in til 12 some days or finish at 1, the holiday's even it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Emergency loan to Sheff Utd, then 500,000- 1,000,000 In Jan would do nicely For Martin? One of our top scorers and excellent hold up player? A player that makes excellent runs off the ball creating space and bringing team mates into the game? Best finisher at the club... that Chris Martin? Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I'm thankful i've seen this thread because i have needed a good DCFC related moan to counter out my increasing optimism this past week. What a dire ******* song, truly embarrassing. Do these lot not ever think about any of the ***** they sing. The Craig Byrson song is just as bad as well, and that's before we get to the likes of Dale Cavesa, We love you etc etc. Nick and his little mob need to pack in their new songs, and the drum whilst were at it, (disclaimer - i have respect for Nick and his safe standing efforts/home atmosphere) as it's limiting the atmosphere on the road and making our away end rival the likes of Mk Dons and Reading for noise and wittiness. I try and stand as far away as possible from our singing lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I try and stand as far away as possible from our singing lot. The merry band of happy clapper window lickers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I would say Mason Bennett is currently being moulded into Dean Sturridge! Paolo Wanchope FTFB4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I try and stand as far away as possible from our singing lot. I love Nick to bits, proper decent bloke and personally think he's a quality person. But his little gang, in their efforts to improve atmosphere, sadly affect the atmosphere for me by singing cringeworthy, sycophantic and embarrassing songs. We're men, we like to be macho and passionate at football. It's a tribal thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormantonRam Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 For Martin? One of our top scorers and excellent hold up player? A player that makes excellent runs off the ball creating space and bringing team mates into the game? Best finisher at the club... that Chris Martin? Bizarre. Is he really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Is he really ?[/quote Paul Lambert rated him as Nowrich's best finisher even when they were in the Prem to be fair and from the 20 odd games I've seen of him I'd say he's Our's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Is he really ? Yes. Probably our second best player behind Bryson this season too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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