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18 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

 

Most likely how we will line up at the start of the season too.

17 minutes ago, BuckoBeast said:

Will he play today I wonder? 

Surley makes sense for him to? So PW can assess how he fits into the team and if he can make a difference 

I think we may well end up giving Waggy a deal then getting a couple of loanees. A wing back who can play on the left and an attacking midfielder with pace and legs.

39 minutes ago, maxjam said:

Rooney, Rooney!  Oops, I mean Waggy, Waggy!

 

What a goal!

53 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

Jamie Ward has left Ilkeston Town, maybe Warne wants him?

Maybe as a coach to work with Bucko 

4 hours ago, derbyfan55 said:

In part one of season preview podcast, Cory and Jack sit down with Ryan Conway to discuss the influence of wing backs, where the goals will come from, James Collins, Martyn Waghorn and using budgets smartly.

Listen here: Season Preview Podcast with Ryan Conway

Will give it a listen to thank you

1 minute ago, Rev said:

True.

He's equally inept at both roles, showing his versatility. 

Love the positivity 

2 hours ago, CodnorRam said:

Cant grumble. Even if hes cover for striker/wingers hes a solid signing. 

I think when you have a small sqaud it's key you have versatile players. Waggy can play through the middle or as an inside foward.

I'm not bowled over by the new shirt but then yet again they normally grow on me throughout the season.

4 minutes ago, strawhillram said:

I’d be happy with Waggers and bring through younger players from the U21s. The club needs to spend money prudently for a few years and also  sell to buy.

I think if we got Waghorn it would complete the "spine" of the team. We should then look for loanees to add a bit of extra sparkle and pace.

39 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said:

Doesn't matter how many we've sold. The only important thing is how much we get behind the team on the first game.

COYR. 🐏

Hopefully we can generate a good atmosphere and get pride park rocking.

6 minutes ago, Ramslad1992 said:

Call me an old romantic but sign him up! That game against Wednesday he was immense and his reaction towards the end of the game and afterwards was superb.
 

Exactly the kind of character our club deserves. We could do a hell of a lot worse than Waghorn as a back up striker. 

100% couldn't have said it any better.

19 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said:

I was so pleased when he left. Hated the points squandered by his poor finishing. At the death he had one good game for us, but for me it's not enough. Nowhere near. I don't get the calls to bring failed players back so they can fail for us again. I'd hope we could find someone better.

7 minutes ago, Sidd10 said:

What a way to live your life. What a miserable outlook

I think he is trolling with such nonsense.

Robbery!!

There's little the club can do though as they will always be people looking to flog tickets for above the cost price.

4 hours ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

I don't think it's a scathing insight into our recruitment. More on what's available.

Our recruitment so far has been very good.

It sounds to me like he's a last resort if we can't get anything over the line.

I think Huddersfield/Rhodes is similar to the Collins/Cardiff situation. The player needs paying up if they the club wants them out. If they don't offer the player something acceptable then that player can't go anywhere. 

If we don't manage to sign someone permanently. Then I would hope we'd bring Waghorn in and a young striker on loan. Potentially a Stansfield/Coburn type.

For me bringing in Waghorn and then another foward on loan would be ideal. Recruiting players fitting into PW's system, good characters and with no transfer fees being paid.

I think Warne has taken to Waggy since Fozzys testimonial so he wasn't previously on Warne radar. While he is in his most definitely now.

I hope we sign him up personally.

Barks will be an option as one of the fowards. I think we will play with both a front 2 and a front 3 and Barkhuizen will play a role as part of a front 3.

29 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

But Big Trav said it was, someone said Derbys admin has been quiet on Twitter recently, maybe their Internet is down?

No 3G at pride park either!

If we signed Waggy we would then have options to play different ways. Whether that was a front 2 or a front 3 with inside fowards (being Collins, Washington, Waghorn, Mendez-Laing and Barkhuize). 

On 25/07/2023 at 14:12, Kokosnuss said:

I've got far, far too much time on my hands today.

I just wondered what people thought was a realistic goal tally for our squad (or potential squad) this season and how they see those goals being spread out? We scored 67 (league goals) last season.

I came up with a list myself, but as usual when I do these things it has probably come out wildly optimistic.

Say as rumoured we do add Rhodes or Godden:
17 - Collins
11 - Rhodes/Godden
9 - Washington
6 - NML
5 - Hourihane, Ward, Sibley
4 - Barkhuizen
3 - Bird
2 - Brown, Bradley, Nelson
1 - Wilson, Cashin, Thompson

= 74 goals. See? Optimistic! (possibly laughably so, depending on your viewpoint)

Obviously it's not strict numbers-per-player, some may exceed the number some may do the opposite. I'm also not including any contribution from any extra no. 10 we're meant to be after or any further loan signings. Those additions may take goals away from elsewhere anyway.

...and then I got a bit carried away and thought I'd look at League One over the past 8 seasons to see how many goals teams have historically scored and conceded, and where this placed them in the final standings using that 74 goals as a sort of benchmark. It felt like the sort of number a play-off team with aspirations of automatics should be looking toward.

And so....

Over the past 8 seasons in League One, teams scoring fewer than 74 (or the equivalent of that in the covid season) have finished:
1st in 1 of 8 seasons (goals total: 65eq)
2nd in 3 of 8 seasons (goals totals: 57, 68, 70)
3rd in 5 of 8 seasons (goals totals: 60, 60, 61eq, 71, 73)
4th in 4 of 8 seasons (goals totals: 64, 70, 73, 73)
5th in 6 of 8 season (goals totals: 53eq, 55, 62, 62, 65, 69)
6th in 4 of 8 seasons (goals totals: 51eq, 58, 66, 70)

Rotherham only conceded 33 goals on the way to their last promotion, Wigan only conceded 29!
I can see us having a similar defensive record to Rotherham's given the signings we've made, but let's just say we concede ≤40

Teams who've conceded 40 or fewer have finished:
1st in 2 of 8 seasons (scoring 80, 89)
2nd in 6 of 8 seasons (scoring 57, 68, 70, 80, 82, 101)
3rd in 4 of 8 seasons (scoring 60, 60, 73, 81)
5th in 2 of 8 seasons (scoring 53eq, 55, 62)
6th in 1 of 8 seasons (scoring 51eq)
...a lot of those goals in the higher echelons will be cherries on the cake and superfluous to actually gaining points.

Teams who've conceded 37 goals - 1x 2nd place finish, 2x 3rd place finishes
Teams who've conceded 36 goals - 1x 2nd place, 2x 5th place finishes
Teams who've conceded 35 or fewer - always automatically promoted

Teams who've finished 3rd have won the play-offs in 4 of the past 8 seasons:
2018/19 - Charlton who scored 73 and conceded 40
2019/20 - Wycombe who scored 61 equiv. and conceded 54 equiv.
2020/21 - Blackpool who scored 60 and conceded 37
2022/23 - Sheff Weds who scored 81 and conceded 37

Those who finished 3rd and failed to get promoted:
2015/16 - Walsall who scored 71 and conceded 49
2016/17 - Scunthorpe who scored 80 and conceded 54
2017/18 - Shrewsbury who scores 60 and conceded 39
2021/22 - MK Dons who scored 74 and conceded 44

...aaaand breathe.

 

I hope that the likes of Bradley and Nelson could even get 3 or 4 each taking advantage of their physical presence from corners and pieces.

I don't see us getting an goal scorer like we had with Didzy last year but instead trying to get more goals all round the pitch. Bradley and Nelson will certainly help with that from set pieces. Hopefully our wing backs will also chip in with a few then we can have a say three centre fowards averaging 15 goals each. 

4 hours ago, DesertRam said:

A player I've always been impressed with is Marc Albrighton, he's 33

now but would be fantastic as a season long loan from Leicester.

Don't think he's had much game time under current manager!!

Shame he's more of a right sided player, otherwise he would be ideal as a option at left wing back.

48 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

Washington apparently has some pace & runs in behind so is slightly different to the other options

He is. He has been brought in to press, get about and stretch the play. 

Not a profilic goal scorer but someone will help create space chances for others.

How many season tickets have we sold now? Must be getting towards 21,000.

We not only need to find a foward who fits into Warne's style of play, but someone we can afford and is a good teams player. Waggy ticks those boxes for me. Great lad who would love to put on a rams shirt, will press and work hard for the team.