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1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said:

I thought you had said bye at least twice..

Changed my mind, I don't see why I should leave because of a few bad apples. I don't see why people think I'm another clubs fan. I can see this horror show for what it is and not a denyer like some on here. We need to get mel out of our club 

4 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said:

This is an excellent article and an example of why The Athletic is worth paying for.

Two things stuck out to me in particular.

This sounds pathetic from us:

And this tells you everything you need to know about how little the EFL care about protecting football clubs:

Can nobody see that this football club is the laughing stock of the football pyramid. Its an absolute joke 

I'm really not, I said job done because I'm sick and tired of all this rubbish 

43 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Sorry not got one, try Google.

No link to it because it isn't true, the only thing we won was keoghs own internal appeal which shocked the world I'm sure. The tribunal was a massive failure and keogh rightly is owed the value of his contract. 

1 hour ago, Eatonram said:

Only dismissed after he refused to accept a temporary pay cut to a salary of £150-200k per year. Poor him. 

Why should he of accepted that? This club make stupid decisions 

2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Are you sure? That sounds a bit positive for you. Why not the maximum 21?

12 then we will appeal and it will drop to 6. Job done.

15 minutes ago, enachops said:

Where to begin...

Not appointed a rookie manager in Clement and then give him about 20 million to waste.

Not walk in the changing rooms undermining said rookie manager.

Not sacking managers on a regular basis.

After sacking managers, appointing their replacement who has a completely different playing style.

Not mentioning the ‘Derby way’

Not spending millions of pounds on guff which means having to sell/get loans for the training ground and stadium.

Appointing Stephen Pearce as chief exec despite him messing up countless contracts and not keeping finances in check in his previous job as finance officer.

Basically, pretty much everything has gone tits up under his stewardship. Great intentions, heart in the right place, but it’s been a disaster. 

Nailed it 

I reckon 12 points 

5 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

I personally wouldnt have been so rooster sure when taking over.

I always remember Mel being on Soccer AM in the inland days after his takeover and the interviewer went to ask a question that started "if you are promoted to the premier league...", Mel actually stopped him and said "Not if, when..."

I remember cringing at the time as it was so cocky and you just knew it would backfire.

 

Did you ever listen to him on talksport? Chatting utter garbage 

Devils advocate here regarding the whole ordeal, a little piece of me believes we should be a little bit grateful to middlesbrough for bringing up the allegations for the following reasons

1. If they hadn't brought other allegations we would have been relegated this season 

2. If they didn't bring ourselves and Wednesday to EFL attention how bad could it have been?

3. I believe this ordeal is the main reason for Mel wanting shot. I see this and the keogh ordeal as a hard reset for us. 

4. I think we have the quality under new management to see off any points deduction 

2 minutes ago, cannable said:

HE 

IS 

NOT 

THEIR 

DAD

Never been a fan of passing the buck, it's as if people think the other two were children and didn't know any better. End of the day decisions like these all come down to money. Bennett = £300k at best Lawrence = 1.5-2 mil, we should have sacked all 3 or nobody at all.

Mel strikes again ? Probably would have got away with it if we sacked Lawrence and bennett aswell. We should have done.

10 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said:

 

Can anyone translate this rubbish?

1 minute ago, inter politics said:

Pathetic Gibson

You are blaming the wrong bloke, there's only one person to blame here and it isn't steve nobson 

1 minute ago, Wolfie20 said:

Everyone's most hated team? Are you really being serious? Most fans of most clubs don't care a fig about us one way or another.

You'd be surprised, just go on twitter and read people's comments.

11 minutes ago, Kernow said:

Can you blame them? Especially if what is read by supporters of other clubs are just the endless negative articles written about us by various papers.

It wasn't so long ago that everyone was rooting for us in a play-off final over a "cheating" QPR. Now the tables have turned. There's always the animosity towards the clubs that have splashed the cash to get up but failed, rather than those who were successful as they stuck two fingers up to the rules on the way up.

Lots of praise for teams like Leicester, Villa, Wolves etc in recent seasons for how they've done in the Premier League, with very little mention that they bent the same, or similar rules as we have apparently broken to get there. They were successful with it, we weren't. We're the ones who are vilified.

We have become a laughing stock and everyone's most hated team in the last couple of years. We've cheated is the bottom line of it.

Clarke and Byrne are a given but I think CkR can hold his Head up high for his commitment 

3 minutes ago, DCFCJim87 said:

From reading some of the stuff on Kieran Maguire's (Price Of Football Podcast) Twitter it sounds like we've tried to be creative and move the losses on a couple of years from when they've occurred by the way we've done the accounts which may or may not be breaking the rules I don't understand that part.

Either way looks to me like Mel's taken a leaf out of Leicester and QPR's books and decided he'd spend whatever and get promoted and then we'd be pretty much exempt from any punishment much like Leicester and to a lesser extent QPR were. Is this pretty much what Reading have done this year as well and now they are fudged because they missed the playoffs? Seems as though so many owners are risking their clubs futures because the lure of the Premier League is financially so big. 

Forgive me if I've got any of this wrong I'm trying to understand it best I can from people's explanations. 

That's pretty much what I have taken from it. Leicester, qpr and especially villa have gotten away with it. 

1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said:

If his figures were right what would the likely points deduction be, any ideas???

They can deduct something like 21 or 24 points but i reckon it would be 6-12

1 minute ago, Yani P said:

So we still have an appeal then if we lose this verdict? Although as it'd likely a fine bot sure if it will make financial sense to do so..

No we don't, the decision stands whatever the outcome.

8 minutes ago, Yani P said:

That is so EFL..they can appeal ..clubs can't lol

I believe there is one appeal for the losing party, it isn't a case of they could appeal but we can't. Just like Wednesday appealed their 12 point deduction and ended up with 6.

3 minutes ago, AGR said:

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere over the weekend that the latest date a points deduction can be imposed on the 2020/21 season was sometime in March - or have I imagined that?

To my understanding that isn't the case, the efl DOES have the power to remove points, the championship season hasn't concluded yet. I wouldn't be surprised to see us have 3 points deducted. 

According to reports on twitter the decision  is imminent. 

3 minutes ago, abertawe_ram said:

If they stay down then I think Mowatt'll be a very good free transfer for somebody but most likely one of the parachute payment clubs that can give him top money and likely be challenging at the top end of the table.

Agree Fletcher does have something about it him despite his goal record being less than impressive. Not sure if he is best in a front 2 or as a lone striker? 

Not sure mate, he's tall and pacy and scored a few in a rubbish boro team.

I'd take a look at bringing in Ashley fletcher, I think there's definitely a player there and he's on a free. Would be better than waggy IMO. I think mowatt may sign a new deal if Barnsley go up.