davenportram
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The league wanted Morris out - the FFP penalty will be left I reckon as new owners shouldn’t be punished for mistakes of the old.
FFP punishment for me should only be applied if the owners who committed the offence will still be in ownership
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40 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:
The parent club owns it, the parent club is also going into administration.
Loans were taken with the ground/club as security.
If we go into administration the ownership of both passes to MSD.
Doesn’t sound like the football club has any ownership of the stadium
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Now, if I waited, and let's say I left that (the stadium) in the football club just for a second, and now was bringing in an initial 12 million pounds a year from running concerts and then chose to pull the stadium out to sell to someone else for 180 million pounds, and then booked that profit, then people would have had an even bigger issue with it.
"We had the stadium valued and the valuation came back. Once it came back, if I had paid a penny less, HMRC (Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs) would have rang me up and said: 'By the way, you have just sold yourself an asset at under value'.
"So on the one hand, I am either going to have to have a debate with HMRC and pay them a cheque, or I am going to have the EFL moaning, or some other club, saying this isn't fair, on the other side."
ge sold it from the club to himself - his own words
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37 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:
The parent club owns it, the parent club is also going into administration.
Loans were taken with the ground/club as security.
If we go into administration the ownership of both passes to MSD.
Wasn’t it bought via Gellaw Newco 202 Limited - no notice to appoint administrators for that company is there?
from the article at the time Mel explained why he took the stadium out of the football club.
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11 minutes ago, GenBr said:
Didnt we take a loan with the stadium as security? Which we now lose to Dell no?
We already lease it from him https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/pride-park-sale-mel-morris-3290644.amp
how can we have taken a loan against a stadium we do not own.
cynic says Mel bought the stadium knowing that if he ever sold Derby he’d always have an income. If EFL punished it for us he’d still have an income if we got points deducted and went down.
in short he guaranteed himself an income if Derby County is around - if liquidated he’s got a huge chunk of land to sell for developments
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6 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:
But that debt is secured against his biggest asset, which he will now lose on the cheap.
Makes no sense to me.
Just smacks of him being completely desperate to offload a failed project and shaft anyone and everyone in the process.
I think fan reaction will have played a major part in this. He couldn't get enough of it when the majority adored him.
If he owns it personally why would he lose the ground? Didn’t he buy it? He’ll just lease it to us and milk the club again
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Administrators
mel gone
EFL give points for administration
new owners
embargo lifted as Mel has gone (EFL beef with Mels methods why punish new owners administration enough)
terrible news but better than dragging it on with EFL a d it happening at the end of the season with higher debts.
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Hey up guys,
bsck down to pride park for the Stoke game got tickets in the South Stand.
where is best to park and what time should I arrive. There’s no car park tickets available so need somewhere else and I’ve not been for ages so have no idea.
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11 minutes ago, Eddie said:
Walter Roulstone.
He was an almost ever-present in Derby's first few seasons, so he just might have been the first person in the world to ever play 100 league games. I tried to research it a few years ago, but decided that it would get in the way of drinking.
Unless you had a drink for every player you confirmed he beat to the milestone?
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I think the EFL are trying to save face - how can we be punished for doing something that at the time was accepted by the EFL as not breaking the rules but they retrospectively decide wasnt within the rules?
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5 minutes ago, Rev said:
I don't understand why you'd say that.
If Mel's owed the largest amount, which could be the case, what would administration achieve that he couldn't sort as part of a takeover.
Football debts would be no different, maybe we could screw the taxman and the hundreds of local suppliers for a few quid, I don't see 12 points of gain from those savings.
On a takeover he’d want it paying - under administration he wouldn’t get it all.
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46 minutes ago, ilkleyram said:
We’ve plenty of players to sell - Jozwiak, Knight, Bird, Shinnie, Lawrence, Bielik, the list goes on. At what price though because the administrators would be letting them go at cheap rates come January to get them off the books, bit like Byrne and Marshall.
And at what price does the ground get leased back to us? Maybe an unaffordable price for us, one that makes us nomadic perhaps. We could see if Leicester want us, or Coventry maybe. Notts County perhaps. That would work well.
We actually have done business in this window. Limited, yes; not all the players wanted in numbers and quality perhaps but to say that ‘nothing’ is happening is not true.
Administration is no panacea as we will find out if Mel decides that he’s really had enough. We’d better hope that he doesn’t.
The ground owners wouldn’t make any money if they didn’t lease it to us at a sensible price - sell it knock it down for a development? They’d make more from a long term lease tbh
administrators dint always sell players if a buyer comes in quick.
it’ll hurt Mels pocket more than the club.
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8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:
Sell off all our good players on the cheap, still owe all the footballing debts. Seems fairly messy. Oh and Mel would lose the ground to MSD who have security on it for the debt.
We’ve no players left to sell. I’d rather administration and new owners than the current can’t do feck all. Whoever has the ground will lease it back to us.
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On 03/09/2021 at 01:03, Norman said:
Imagine if the last day of the season went slightly differently. What mess would we be in?
No mess at all - administration, creditors agreement 10 point deduction new owners
mel on the other hand would have got peanuts from selling us - he’d be in the mess
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5 hours ago, Crewton said:
I meant that he initially landed, and then raised and lowered the "offending" foot again, so it "could" be interpreted as a deliberate act, not that it necessarily was. Only Fozzy knows which interpretation is correct.
Christ this thread is like Kneegate
byvthe way did I tell you all about when King Jake bought me a pint and told me that Nigel did knee Billy because he thinks he’s a Bamford
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33 minutes ago, loweman2 said:
Key club DET February 23rd 1987
The pictures you put up is the Osmastom end terrace not the normanton end terrace as the article says.
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1 hour ago, loweman2 said:
that was the key club
No it wasn’t - I was in the key club when it started and I was behind the goal to the left of the bridge in the normanton terrace.
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22 hours ago, Kingpin said:
Yes I do as well.
Just think back though, how close the houses were to the BBG. Simply not the space to do much more than a few coats of paint.Not much nearer than those at Newcastle
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Waiting for the decision regarding embargo and it points?
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Rams win 2-1 Forsyth
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On 19/08/2021 at 17:48, Jase116 said:
Dean Saunders got 2 if I’m not mistaken
Yes was there that day
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4 hours ago, Rev said:
Just use your own email.
It doesn't have to be unique.
I had to use unique email addresses when I created my lads’ accounts
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13 minutes ago, shakey said:
Anyone know how to overcome the ‘wrong age’ error haveing selected a seat to buy for tommorow ??
I’m logged in as myself all fine - & never had an issue.
emailed ticket office but no reply apart from asking for name I’d address etc auto reply.
?♂️?♂️?♂️Check your date of birth in your profile. Did you have a birthday recently?
Notice to appoint administrators
in Derby County Forum
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So MM has put all of his companies into administration because Derby County are in trouble. Can’t understand why he’d do that if there some that are still going operating okay.