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Far too early to be making assertions this is all playing philosophy related and saying don’t like the look of Warneball. He’s been here 2 weeks and today commented on how we lacked control of the midfield so today is clearly not how he wants to play.
I thought Liam should’ve been given the job but we’ve got Warne and he needs to be given time. I labelled him a long ball merchant but after doing my research he’s someone who adapts to what he has and hopefully we’ll see that in time.

Amazingly harsh on the recruitment here. You’re forgetting we remain under significant restrictions, in the circumstances we have cobbled together possibly the best squad we could’ve hoped for, one that has given us a fighting chance to be in and around it, but by no means the strongest squad in the league. 
 
I agree with you though, top 2 will be tough from here and pre-season was never really on in my mind. I think we’ll finish between 4th and 10th but couldn’t tell you where within that at this stage.
Given what happened in the summer what’s happened is probably the best we could expect, to be in the mix for top 6, position ourselves well to hopefully have a good run to solidly get us in the top 6 

Just seen the red card! That is an absolute f****** disgrace!!! Never a red card in 1 million years! He never touched him!!! Clearly hitting the ground! Shocker absolute shocker! Worst decision of the lot

Did we play well - No
Did we contribute to our own downfall - yes 
Did the referees performance fundamentally change the game in vales favour - absolutely 
Not been so angry at a football match for many many years. Despite not playing well we’d created the better chances looked more threatening and at 1-1 felt we’d just upped it and it was only a matter of time before we’d go on and win the game - then the sending off happened. I need to see it again but right now im not having it, and certainly don’t see how the ref can give it from the position he was in (ie. 30 yards away), and how their player avoided any punishment for pushing our player in the face in the aftermath god knows. 
Vale got away with murder all game. Yes we were poor, I can take getting beat when it’s deserved but my overriding feeling is injustice and nothing pushes my angry buttons more than injustice. Vale have now made it on my shitlist and I’m already looking forward to the return game where hopefully we’ll give them a good pasting!

Did we play well - No
Did we contribute to our own downfall - yes 
Did the referees performance fundamentally change the game in vales favour - absolutely 
Not been so angry at a football match for many many years. Despite not playing well we’d created the better chances looked more threatening and at 1-1 felt we’d just upped it and it was only a matter of time before we’d go on and win the game - then the sending off happened. I need to see it again but right now im not having it, and certainly don’t see how the ref can give it from the position he was in (ie. 30 yards away), and how their player avoided any punishment for pushing our player in the face in the aftermath god knows. 
Vale got away with murder all game. Yes we were poor, I can take getting beat when it’s deserved but my overriding feeling is injustice and nothing pushes my angry buttons more than injustice. Vale have now made it on my shitlist and I’m already looking forward to the return game where hopefully we’ll give them a good pasting!

Amazingly harsh on the recruitment here. You’re forgetting we remain under significant restrictions, in the circumstances we have cobbled together possibly the best squad we could’ve hoped for, one that has given us a fighting chance to be in and around it, but by no means the strongest squad in the league. 
 
I agree with you though, top 2 will be tough from here and pre-season was never really on in my mind. I think we’ll finish between 4th and 10th but couldn’t tell you where within that at this stage.
Given what happened in the summer what’s happened is probably the best we could expect, to be in the mix for top 6, position ourselves well to hopefully have a good run to solidly get us in the top 6 

Amazingly harsh on the recruitment here. You’re forgetting we remain under significant restrictions, in the circumstances we have cobbled together possibly the best squad we could’ve hoped for, one that has given us a fighting chance to be in and around it, but by no means the strongest squad in the league. 
 
I agree with you though, top 2 will be tough from here and pre-season was never really on in my mind. I think we’ll finish between 4th and 10th but couldn’t tell you where within that at this stage.
Given what happened in the summer what’s happened is probably the best we could expect, to be in the mix for top 6, position ourselves well to hopefully have a good run to solidly get us in the top 6 

If he’d done as you say then the police should get involved. 
 
Except it wasn’t at all as you describe, he’s clearly hitting the ground and doesn’t make any contact with the player who conned the ref to get him sent off. 

Shouldn’t have skim read your post, can’t disagree with any of that. 
 
I think our first 11 is as good as anyone, beyond that we struggle a bit. But regardless of the personnel we’re by no means a team yet. Ipswich Plymouth Sheff Weds and Portsmouth have all had 18 months to 2 years at it, we’ve had 3.5 months and now a manager change.
It took us 2 seasons last time we were down here, it’s not unreasonable to suggest it will take that again. 

If he’d done as you say then the police should get involved. 
 
Except it wasn’t at all as you describe, he’s clearly hitting the ground and doesn’t make any contact with the player who conned the ref to get him sent off. 

Amazingly harsh on the recruitment here. You’re forgetting we remain under significant restrictions, in the circumstances we have cobbled together possibly the best squad we could’ve hoped for, one that has given us a fighting chance to be in and around it, but by no means the strongest squad in the league. 
 
I agree with you though, top 2 will be tough from here and pre-season was never really on in my mind. I think we’ll finish between 4th and 10th but couldn’t tell you where within that at this stage.
Given what happened in the summer what’s happened is probably the best we could expect, to be in the mix for top 6, position ourselves well to hopefully have a good run to solidly get us in the top 6 

Did we play well - No
Did we contribute to our own downfall - yes 
Did the referees performance fundamentally change the game in vales favour - absolutely 
Not been so angry at a football match for many many years. Despite not playing well we’d created the better chances looked more threatening and at 1-1 felt we’d just upped it and it was only a matter of time before we’d go on and win the game - then the sending off happened. I need to see it again but right now im not having it, and certainly don’t see how the ref can give it from the position he was in (ie. 30 yards away), and how their player avoided any punishment for pushing our player in the face in the aftermath god knows. 
Vale got away with murder all game. Yes we were poor, I can take getting beat when it’s deserved but my overriding feeling is injustice and nothing pushes my angry buttons more than injustice. Vale have now made it on my shitlist and I’m already looking forward to the return game where hopefully we’ll give them a good pasting!

Amazingly harsh on the recruitment here. You’re forgetting we remain under significant restrictions, in the circumstances we have cobbled together possibly the best squad we could’ve hoped for, one that has given us a fighting chance to be in and around it, but by no means the strongest squad in the league. 
 
I agree with you though, top 2 will be tough from here and pre-season was never really on in my mind. I think we’ll finish between 4th and 10th but couldn’t tell you where within that at this stage.
Given what happened in the summer what’s happened is probably the best we could expect, to be in the mix for top 6, position ourselves well to hopefully have a good run to solidly get us in the top 6 

If he’d done as you say then the police should get involved. 
 
Except it wasn’t at all as you describe, he’s clearly hitting the ground and doesn’t make any contact with the player who conned the ref to get him sent off. 

Far too early to be making assertions this is all playing philosophy related and saying don’t like the look of Warneball. He’s been here 2 weeks and today commented on how we lacked control of the midfield so today is clearly not how he wants to play.
I thought Liam should’ve been given the job but we’ve got Warne and he needs to be given time. I labelled him a long ball merchant but after doing my research he’s someone who adapts to what he has and hopefully we’ll see that in time.

Shouldn’t have skim read your post, can’t disagree with any of that. 
 
I think our first 11 is as good as anyone, beyond that we struggle a bit. But regardless of the personnel we’re by no means a team yet. Ipswich Plymouth Sheff Weds and Portsmouth have all had 18 months to 2 years at it, we’ve had 3.5 months and now a manager change.
It took us 2 seasons last time we were down here, it’s not unreasonable to suggest it will take that again. 

Unfortunately I think there is enough ambiguity in rules that the FA would support the referee’s interpretation of the incident, but that doesn’t make it the right decision.
I’ve watched it again, still no red card for me.

Far too early to be making assertions this is all playing philosophy related and saying don’t like the look of Warneball. He’s been here 2 weeks and today commented on how we lacked control of the midfield so today is clearly not how he wants to play.
I thought Liam should’ve been given the job but we’ve got Warne and he needs to be given time. I labelled him a long ball merchant but after doing my research he’s someone who adapts to what he has and hopefully we’ll see that in time.

Shouldn’t have skim read your post, can’t disagree with any of that. 
 
I think our first 11 is as good as anyone, beyond that we struggle a bit. But regardless of the personnel we’re by no means a team yet. Ipswich Plymouth Sheff Weds and Portsmouth have all had 18 months to 2 years at it, we’ve had 3.5 months and now a manager change.
It took us 2 seasons last time we were down here, it’s not unreasonable to suggest it will take that again. 

Unfortunately I think there is enough ambiguity in rules that the FA would support the referee’s interpretation of the incident, but that doesn’t make it the right decision.
I’ve watched it again, still no red card for me.

Far too early to be making assertions this is all playing philosophy related and saying don’t like the look of Warneball. He’s been here 2 weeks and today commented on how we lacked control of the midfield so today is clearly not how he wants to play.
I thought Liam should’ve been given the job but we’ve got Warne and he needs to be given time. I labelled him a long ball merchant but after doing my research he’s someone who adapts to what he has and hopefully we’ll see that in time.

Did we play well - No
Did we contribute to our own downfall - yes 
Did the referees performance fundamentally change the game in vales favour - absolutely 
Not been so angry at a football match for many many years. Despite not playing well we’d created the better chances looked more threatening and at 1-1 felt we’d just upped it and it was only a matter of time before we’d go on and win the game - then the sending off happened. I need to see it again but right now im not having it, and certainly don’t see how the ref can give it from the position he was in (ie. 30 yards away), and how their player avoided any punishment for pushing our player in the face in the aftermath god knows. 
Vale got away with murder all game. Yes we were poor, I can take getting beat when it’s deserved but my overriding feeling is injustice and nothing pushes my angry buttons more than injustice. Vale have now made it on my shitlist and I’m already looking forward to the return game where hopefully we’ll give them a good pasting!

Shouldn’t have skim read your post, can’t disagree with any of that. 
 
I think our first 11 is as good as anyone, beyond that we struggle a bit. But regardless of the personnel we’re by no means a team yet. Ipswich Plymouth Sheff Weds and Portsmouth have all had 18 months to 2 years at it, we’ve had 3.5 months and now a manager change.
It took us 2 seasons last time we were down here, it’s not unreasonable to suggest it will take that again. 

I've hung fire on making an opinion on our recruitment until now, I'm of the same opinion that we've brought in a collection of players which obviously we needed as our squad was on its arse in the summer - but in the same way Forest fans must have been creaming themselves when transfer number 18 then 19 then 20 came through the door we've fallen into the same trap and it's a classic case of quantity over quality (which again we unfortunately needed due to not having remotely enough players to start the campaign with).
Only being able to trade with free transfers and out of contract players further restricts the situation. 
I'm reading comments from Warne that after this exercise we still don't have strength in depth so we need to go again in January.
I'll be amazed if we get in the Top 2 this season with these players and even the playoffs is looking 50/50 for me.

Far too early to be making assertions this is all playing philosophy related and saying don’t like the look of Warneball. He’s been here 2 weeks and today commented on how we lacked control of the midfield so today is clearly not how he wants to play.
I thought Liam should’ve been given the job but we’ve got Warne and he needs to be given time. I labelled him a long ball merchant but after doing my research he’s someone who adapts to what he has and hopefully we’ll see that in time.