Sparkle

If we are losing money every week then why do you think any money received will be going on more spending rather than reducing the losses ?

Having 5,000 less season tickets sold won’t be in the budget either and I bet there will be that many questioning a purchase based on the absolute rubbish served up at home this season 

They tend to, so why would an owner put any incoming money in a pot to spend rather than reducing the losses he is funding?

One thing for sure is that there is going to need to be a massive rebuild for next season whatever league we are in based on the contracts expiring and the complete flops we have signed this season.
The main thing for me is why on earth did we keep picking the likes of Collins and NML for games in the the rubbish pizza cup when we could have given real game time to Brown Weston etc to see how they did which could have saved some serious money in the future.
If we weren’t forced to play the likes of all the kids we wouldn’t have survived as a club and start to look at what they are being transferred for Whittaker nearly went to Lazio for £12 million A Brown went for £3.5 million knight for £2 million Bird for £? Ebosele £500,000 Plange £1 million to mention a few of them - Warne won’t play them whilst Rooney had to and wanted to play them

One thing for sure is that there is going to need to be a massive rebuild for next season whatever league we are in based on the contracts expiring and the complete flops we have signed this season.
The main thing for me is why on earth did we keep picking the likes of Collins and NML for games in the the rubbish pizza cup when we could have given real game time to Brown Weston etc to see how they did which could have saved some serious money in the future.
If we weren’t forced to play the likes of all the kids we wouldn’t have survived as a club and start to look at what they are being transferred for Whittaker nearly went to Lazio for £12 million A Brown went for £3.5 million knight for £2 million Bird for £? Ebosele £500,000 Plange £1 million to mention a few of them - Warne won’t play them whilst Rooney had to and wanted to play them

One thing for sure is that there is going to need to be a massive rebuild for next season whatever league we are in based on the contracts expiring and the complete flops we have signed this season.
The main thing for me is why on earth did we keep picking the likes of Collins and NML for games in the the rubbish pizza cup when we could have given real game time to Brown Weston etc to see how they did which could have saved some serious money in the future.
If we weren’t forced to play the likes of all the kids we wouldn’t have survived as a club and start to look at what they are being transferred for Whittaker nearly went to Lazio for £12 million A Brown went for £3.5 million knight for £2 million Bird for £? Ebosele £500,000 Plange £1 million to mention a few of them - Warne won’t play them whilst Rooney had to and wanted to play them

One thing for sure is that there is going to need to be a massive rebuild for next season whatever league we are in based on the contracts expiring and the complete flops we have signed this season.
The main thing for me is why on earth did we keep picking the likes of Collins and NML for games in the the rubbish pizza cup when we could have given real game time to Brown Weston etc to see how they did which could have saved some serious money in the future.
If we weren’t forced to play the likes of all the kids we wouldn’t have survived as a club and start to look at what they are being transferred for Whittaker nearly went to Lazio for £12 million A Brown went for £3.5 million knight for £2 million Bird for £? Ebosele £500,000 Plange £1 million to mention a few of them - Warne won’t play them whilst Rooney had to and wanted to play them

This Bird has flown...

Exactly my thoughts. He stayed during relegation when he didn't have to, and has plodded through 1 1/2 seasons being utilised quite badly in what must be a frustrating tactic for him to play. He's not going to develop his game at Derby, let's face facts.
It speaks volumes that he's been constantly slated this season by some but he'll be at a Championship club next season on bigger wages, and with more chance of being spotted by a top division club.
 

Having 5,000 less season tickets sold won’t be in the budget either and I bet there will be that many questioning a purchase based on the absolute rubbish served up at home this season 

Exactly. If Thompson had been given opportunities last season, we wouldn't have needed to sign White last January. It may have been a factor in not needing to use up some of the budget on Fornah in the summer too. Same applies for Robinson.
I( think back to Cashin's introduction to the first team. Honestly, I wouldn't have put him above L2 standard at the time, which is where I feel Brown is at now. Would Warne have started him, when we still had Davies, Forsyth and Bielik as the other options at CB? 
Would have have given Plange his debut when we still had Jozwiak and Stearman on the bench?
Would he have played Williams at LWB and Forsyth CB and leave Stearman on the bench?
Put simply, Warne's mentality is wrong for this club. Wilson's the youngest player he's permanently signed for us and he's 23. Out of his Rotherham signings who joined at a younger age, 
22/23:
None used. A 21 yo keeper played 45 mins under the following manager and has been a free agent since the summer
21/22:
None used, but signed a keeper who has since retired
20/21:
20 yo keeper who has been a regular starter
19/20:
20 yo LB who featured for 622 mins in all competitions over 2 seasons before being moved on
19 yo LW who got 176 mins
22 year old Ogbene who was as squad player in his first season, then got just 606 mins in the Championship the following season before being a regualr starter in L1 aged 24.
21 year old Olusunde who was as squad player for 2 years and has only set foot on a football field 3 times since.
18/19:
None signed
17/18:
22 yo CM who got 1832 mins in all competitions over 2 seasons before being moved on
20 yo CB who got 180 mins before being shipped out to non-league sides.
22 yo winger who got 242 in all competitions over 2 seasons before being moved on
16/17:
19 yo LB who got 1756 mins in all competitions over 2 seasons before being moved on
That's only 1 succesful young signing!!!

Having 5,000 less season tickets sold won’t be in the budget either and I bet there will be that many questioning a purchase based on the absolute rubbish served up at home this season 

Having 5,000 less season tickets sold won’t be in the budget either and I bet there will be that many questioning a purchase based on the absolute rubbish served up at home this season 

Not particularly surprising January - Warne seems to focus on over 30 s forwards based in Sheffield or anyone else with a lengthy fitness issue 
More bothered that Bird wanted to sign now to not be here in the summer because he doesn’t believe in Warne or the way he plays his football and maybe that’s the problem as lots of other third division managers all frequently say they know what a Warne team plays like and whilst we have little money to spend we are unable to consider getting a decent loan from a premiership club and I personally believe that’s down to how we approach the football served up by our current manager.
we can absolutely be promoted but it’s going to be a hard watch.

Not particularly surprising January - Warne seems to focus on over 30 s forwards based in Sheffield or anyone else with a lengthy fitness issue 
More bothered that Bird wanted to sign now to not be here in the summer because he doesn’t believe in Warne or the way he plays his football and maybe that’s the problem as lots of other third division managers all frequently say they know what a Warne team plays like and whilst we have little money to spend we are unable to consider getting a decent loan from a premiership club and I personally believe that’s down to how we approach the football served up by our current manager.
we can absolutely be promoted but it’s going to be a hard watch.

Not particularly surprising January - Warne seems to focus on over 30 s forwards based in Sheffield or anyone else with a lengthy fitness issue 
More bothered that Bird wanted to sign now to not be here in the summer because he doesn’t believe in Warne or the way he plays his football and maybe that’s the problem as lots of other third division managers all frequently say they know what a Warne team plays like and whilst we have little money to spend we are unable to consider getting a decent loan from a premiership club and I personally believe that’s down to how we approach the football served up by our current manager.
we can absolutely be promoted but it’s going to be a hard watch.

Not particularly surprising January - Warne seems to focus on over 30 s forwards based in Sheffield or anyone else with a lengthy fitness issue 
More bothered that Bird wanted to sign now to not be here in the summer because he doesn’t believe in Warne or the way he plays his football and maybe that’s the problem as lots of other third division managers all frequently say they know what a Warne team plays like and whilst we have little money to spend we are unable to consider getting a decent loan from a premiership club and I personally believe that’s down to how we approach the football served up by our current manager.
we can absolutely be promoted but it’s going to be a hard watch.

Not surprised he has been sold but also disappointed that he wanted to be sold - fully expect him to continue to try for us and he has stuck by with us through all we have been through. Surprised he didn’t wait to see who wanted him in the summer but he clearly doesn’t want to wait around and play for Warne any longer than this season and I don’t blame him. No offence to Bristol city but it’s always disappointing to lose a player but we lose money every week whilst Bristol lose £500,000 a month 

Do you think Warne would use the U21's if Collins got injured, or do you think he'd play someone in the senior squad out of position instead?
Also, the main striker in the U21's has been sent out on loan.

Starting to think players don’t want to come to Derby due to our manager pull and style of football tbh 

Bird and Hourihane are ineffective because they are "footballers" having to operate without a ball-winner working with them, and because they are outnumbered, and because Warned sets the team up to render them ineffective! Our new boy should put that right, but only if Warned plays him with Bird and Hourihane as a midfield three. If he sticks with a two, there will be little change.

Can’t understand all the Hourihane criticism. 4 goals and 7 assists this season and played way out of position. He’s a number 8 or 10 and being asked to play as a No4. With Adams in the side, CH will show how good he is at this level.

I wouldn’t want to be paying Forest anything either !

So then if we can sneak a goal lead thanks to NML we can now put on a defensive midfielder in front of a back five for the last twenty minutes whilst still leaving an unmarked forward to head at our goal.

Never heard of him never seen him play and another massive gamble on another teams mainly injured player 
I hope he does fantastic for us and at 28 he needs to with a career of doing ok at FGR 
let’s see who leaves tomorrow - Smith? Fornah ? Bird ?

Really, has anyone heard of this bloke before, or seen him play. I am reading a lot on here about what wonderful news this is, and yet he has started 5 games in the last 2 seasons.