Woodley Ram

They (BCFC) have 43 pages on Derby, wow. The pop bloke has an axe to grind. They have an issue with the possibility of the ground being bought back by the club and a significant discount. I can see the issue with that and how it looks. They think the EFL should not allow It, I’m not sure they can do that? They think we are not talking about a future business plan. We are and we want it to be sustainable. They also think we have people on big wages , we don’t and haven’t done for a couple of years. Year on year we have reduced the wage bill. They also think we have been cheating for years. We had one year when we overspent 
lastly they want to make fun of us when they come to PP. fine we will be waiting for you
 

Just spent time on BCFC forum. It’s interesting that people take the odd quote or something taken out of context and make something out of it. They are not alone with this, we do it as well sometimes. 
 
they are somethings right and others not. We overspent for 1 year and the consequences of that and the high wages provoked the debt. It was a mad gamble that didn’t pay off.  The last couple of years our overheads have. been low, but the damage was already done.
the amortisation was stupid, if Mel had been upfront and transparent then things would have been better. I still think it’s allowed under company rules but apparently not for EFL.
the sale of the stadium was to circumvent FFP, lots of others have done it but not for that amount. 
 
re the administration thing, it’s right to appeal. COVID is an FM event. However to be successful we will need to show that is was that and nothing else that put us into administration.  The problem here is that we don’t have all the facts. The debt itself is not the issue ( others have far larger debts and payrolls) it’s our ability to service that debt. Without Covid-19 would we have paid our bills. If yes then FM is the reason why we went into administration. If not then it’s a 12 point deduction.  Selling an academy player for £1m would have made no difference it’s the fact we had lost £20m to COVID.
 
re Wycombe and Gibson, I really don’t think it’s an issue and they should be going to the EFL not us.
it looks like we will get a new owner. We need to have a sustainable business plan with a combination of the academy system and the Brentford way of buying players.
other clubs such as the Gumps and BCFC have been lucky they have managed to sell big to offset their buying we have not. We have to be better with who we buy and what wages we pay.

Well one thing we now know pop is reading our posts, not an issue I have read theirs. 
 
so pop, agree with you if PP is sold back at a discount, as Anne Widicombe would say it has something of the night about it. Still unsure  If the EFL have any power. Anyway this sis all conjecture at the moment.
yes we do want a sustainable business plan where we keep within FFfP limits 
Pop all we want is to be treated like others FFP ( we only had one high spending year) the rest we financed by sales. How can people talk about Reading getting a smaller  Deduction than us when they overspent by tens of millions, we didn’t 
we are trying to bypass anything but I  would not blame a new owner for trying to get a points  Deduction 
why don’t you come on this site and debate it

Well one thing we now know pop is reading our posts, not an issue I have read theirs. 
 
so pop, agree with you if PP is sold back at a discount, as Anne Widicombe would say it has something of the night about it. Still unsure  If the EFL have any power. Anyway this sis all conjecture at the moment.
yes we do want a sustainable business plan where we keep within FFfP limits 
Pop all we want is to be treated like others FFP ( we only had one high spending year) the rest we financed by sales. How can people talk about Reading getting a smaller  Deduction than us when they overspent by tens of millions, we didn’t 
we are trying to bypass anything but I  would not blame a new owner for trying to get a points  Deduction 
why don’t you come on this site and debate it

Well one thing we now know pop is reading our posts, not an issue I have read theirs. 
 
so pop, agree with you if PP is sold back at a discount, as Anne Widicombe would say it has something of the night about it. Still unsure  If the EFL have any power. Anyway this sis all conjecture at the moment.
yes we do want a sustainable business plan where we keep within FFfP limits 
Pop all we want is to be treated like others FFP ( we only had one high spending year) the rest we financed by sales. How can people talk about Reading getting a smaller  Deduction than us when they overspent by tens of millions, we didn’t 
we are trying to bypass anything but I  would not blame a new owner for trying to get a points  Deduction 
why don’t you come on this site and debate it

They (BCFC) have 43 pages on Derby, wow. The pop bloke has an axe to grind. They have an issue with the possibility of the ground being bought back by the club and a significant discount. I can see the issue with that and how it looks. They think the EFL should not allow It, I’m not sure they can do that? They think we are not talking about a future business plan. We are and we want it to be sustainable. They also think we have people on big wages , we don’t and haven’t done for a couple of years. Year on year we have reduced the wage bill. They also think we have been cheating for years. We had one year when we overspent 
lastly they want to make fun of us when they come to PP. fine we will be waiting for you
 

Just spent time on BCFC forum. It’s interesting that people take the odd quote or something taken out of context and make something out of it. They are not alone with this, we do it as well sometimes. 
 
they are somethings right and others not. We overspent for 1 year and the consequences of that and the high wages provoked the debt. It was a mad gamble that didn’t pay off.  The last couple of years our overheads have. been low, but the damage was already done.
the amortisation was stupid, if Mel had been upfront and transparent then things would have been better. I still think it’s allowed under company rules but apparently not for EFL.
the sale of the stadium was to circumvent FFP, lots of others have done it but not for that amount. 
 
re the administration thing, it’s right to appeal. COVID is an FM event. However to be successful we will need to show that is was that and nothing else that put us into administration.  The problem here is that we don’t have all the facts. The debt itself is not the issue ( others have far larger debts and payrolls) it’s our ability to service that debt. Without Covid-19 would we have paid our bills. If yes then FM is the reason why we went into administration. If not then it’s a 12 point deduction.  Selling an academy player for £1m would have made no difference it’s the fact we had lost £20m to COVID.
 
re Wycombe and Gibson, I really don’t think it’s an issue and they should be going to the EFL not us.
it looks like we will get a new owner. We need to have a sustainable business plan with a combination of the academy system and the Brentford way of buying players.
other clubs such as the Gumps and BCFC have been lucky they have managed to sell big to offset their buying we have not. We have to be better with who we buy and what wages we pay.

Just spent time on BCFC forum. It’s interesting that people take the odd quote or something taken out of context and make something out of it. They are not alone with this, we do it as well sometimes. 
 
they are somethings right and others not. We overspent for 1 year and the consequences of that and the high wages provoked the debt. It was a mad gamble that didn’t pay off.  The last couple of years our overheads have. been low, but the damage was already done.
the amortisation was stupid, if Mel had been upfront and transparent then things would have been better. I still think it’s allowed under company rules but apparently not for EFL.
the sale of the stadium was to circumvent FFP, lots of others have done it but not for that amount. 
 
re the administration thing, it’s right to appeal. COVID is an FM event. However to be successful we will need to show that is was that and nothing else that put us into administration.  The problem here is that we don’t have all the facts. The debt itself is not the issue ( others have far larger debts and payrolls) it’s our ability to service that debt. Without Covid-19 would we have paid our bills. If yes then FM is the reason why we went into administration. If not then it’s a 12 point deduction.  Selling an academy player for £1m would have made no difference it’s the fact we had lost £20m to COVID.
 
re Wycombe and Gibson, I really don’t think it’s an issue and they should be going to the EFL not us.
it looks like we will get a new owner. We need to have a sustainable business plan with a combination of the academy system and the Brentford way of buying players.
other clubs such as the Gumps and BCFC have been lucky they have managed to sell big to offset their buying we have not. We have to be better with who we buy and what wages we pay.

Just spent time on BCFC forum. It’s interesting that people take the odd quote or something taken out of context and make something out of it. They are not alone with this, we do it as well sometimes. 
 
they are somethings right and others not. We overspent for 1 year and the consequences of that and the high wages provoked the debt. It was a mad gamble that didn’t pay off.  The last couple of years our overheads have. been low, but the damage was already done.
the amortisation was stupid, if Mel had been upfront and transparent then things would have been better. I still think it’s allowed under company rules but apparently not for EFL.
the sale of the stadium was to circumvent FFP, lots of others have done it but not for that amount. 
 
re the administration thing, it’s right to appeal. COVID is an FM event. However to be successful we will need to show that is was that and nothing else that put us into administration.  The problem here is that we don’t have all the facts. The debt itself is not the issue ( others have far larger debts and payrolls) it’s our ability to service that debt. Without Covid-19 would we have paid our bills. If yes then FM is the reason why we went into administration. If not then it’s a 12 point deduction.  Selling an academy player for £1m would have made no difference it’s the fact we had lost £20m to COVID.
 
re Wycombe and Gibson, I really don’t think it’s an issue and they should be going to the EFL not us.
it looks like we will get a new owner. We need to have a sustainable business plan with a combination of the academy system and the Brentford way of buying players.
other clubs such as the Gumps and BCFC have been lucky they have managed to sell big to offset their buying we have not. We have to be better with who we buy and what wages we pay.

Actually red rot is quite appropriate for 'boro

Give him a chance, He has shown he has the cash to buy Derby. The Administrators have confirmed that. The fact that he is not the richest man in the world isn't an issue. We need to be run on a sustainable budget.
I have no idea if he will be the owner but he is the type of owner that I would like

Kirchner needs you

Listen to the talksport interview, apparently they were very impressed with his football knowledge and his advisors knowledge.

Kirchner needs you

Well lads let's put down a marker let's go and thrash blackburn rovers a beats let's get of bottom of the table and 3 points towards safety and let's help the take over get done and you have us right behind you and making lots of noise.

Give him a chance, He has shown he has the cash to buy Derby. The Administrators have confirmed that. The fact that he is not the richest man in the world isn't an issue. We need to be run on a sustainable budget.
I have no idea if he will be the owner but he is the type of owner that I would like

Give him a chance, He has shown he has the cash to buy Derby. The Administrators have confirmed that. The fact that he is not the richest man in the world isn't an issue. We need to be run on a sustainable budget.
I have no idea if he will be the owner but he is the type of owner that I would like

He is nothing like Alonso. He's actually a well respected business man. That type of content? He made a joke on Twitter, he wasn't goaded into anything. It really isn't that deep, you're over analysing.

I think the main point of this bid is that we can now rest a bit easier that we are not going to be the next Bury.
Kirchner looks to have the funds and appears to be credible enough to pass the owners test. Presumably, as he's gone very public, he fully intends to complete the takeover. That gives Derby County a future...and that has to be a massive plus.
What this will do is focus any other serious bidders. They now have to move quickly and out bid Kirchner.
Personally, I'm concerned that Kirchner isn't wealthy enough. GSE's investors got fed up with funding losses. Mel decided he could no longer fund the losses. Unless something changes dramatically, if we are going to be competitive, there will be losses to fund until we finally make the Premier League - sustainability is just a pipe dream. £2m a month, which is about what FFP allows given that much can be 'written off' against the academy and infrastructure, should be pocket change for a billionaire, but very significant for a multi millionaire.

Derby 6-0
Lawrence
 
#Floodgates #Deluded #Medication

I wouldn't take it for granted that this guy will be the new owner. this is just the opening there will be more to come. Have to admit I do like his style

I wouldn't take it for granted that this guy will be the new owner. this is just the opening there will be more to come. Have to admit I do like his style

I wouldn't take it for granted that this guy will be the new owner. this is just the opening there will be more to come. Have to admit I do like his style

I wouldn't take it for granted that this guy will be the new owner. this is just the opening there will be more to come. Have to admit I do like his style