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They can't score any goals against us anymore, so lets see what Derby do, not what Rotherham might do.

Ladapo went off injured for Rotherham and with another game on Thursday then they go again on Sunday. How many more of their squad will get injured. Rotherham V Coventry is a massive game for both teams, if Coventry win that will create a 6 point gap between them and Rotherham. If Rotherham win they go above Coventry on goal diff and close to one point on the Rams with 2 games in hand. 
Would the Rams prefer the game to be a draw, keeping both below us. Those fans with sky sports can watch the game live on Thursday night.

Thats obvious, they are always going to be in a win win situation. If the favourite don't win, all the money bets on them become their cash. You will always get some die hard fan betting on their team early in the season when the odds are 100/1 or more and they will lose their money. But to say they get it wrong regularly is a bit off the mark. How many bookies go into liquidation, very few, the last big name was 666bet who went under in 2015 and most of that was linked to their online casino betting (not sporting odds). Bet365 owner Denise Coates in March this year paid herself for the 12 month period £421M. Oh and on top of that she got her company's bonus for the year of £48M. Bet365 mainly make most of their monies from people who make stupid bets. They were started by Denise only 21 years ago in a portacabin office in Stoke.
Denise Coates is the daughter of Peter Coates who is current owner and chairman of Stoke City. I just hope no Derby fan has bet on Rotherham staying up this season with Bet365, because when they go down, you are putting monies into Stoke City.

Thats obvious, they are always going to be in a win win situation. If the favourite don't win, all the money bets on them become their cash. You will always get some die hard fan betting on their team early in the season when the odds are 100/1 or more and they will lose their money. But to say they get it wrong regularly is a bit off the mark. How many bookies go into liquidation, very few, the last big name was 666bet who went under in 2015 and most of that was linked to their online casino betting (not sporting odds). Bet365 owner Denise Coates in March this year paid herself for the 12 month period £421M. Oh and on top of that she got her company's bonus for the year of £48M. Bet365 mainly make most of their monies from people who make stupid bets. They were started by Denise only 21 years ago in a portacabin office in Stoke.
Denise Coates is the daughter of Peter Coates who is current owner and chairman of Stoke City. I just hope no Derby fan has bet on Rotherham staying up this season with Bet365, because when they go down, you are putting monies into Stoke City.

Odds get adjusted as the season progresses. Yes Liverpool were made favourites at the begining of this season but they adjust the odds, so the bookies don't make a loss. The season Leicester won the title (2015/16), they were not the favourites at the begining of the season to go down, Bournemouth were. You might be getting confused with the fact, one bookies had them 5000/1 to win the title. They only lost 3 games all season and as games went by, their odds were slashed.
As for Rotherham can score goals, yes they can and do better than most of the teams down in the bottom end of the table. But they also concede, only SIX teams in the entire Championship have conceded more. And when you consider Rotherham have leaked 51 goals in 37 games, the other six have played 3 or 4 games more to have leaked more. To save you looking its Wycombe Conceded 64, Sheff Wed 52, Coventry 56, Hudderfield 60, Preston 55 and Bristol 55 (all in bottom half of the table).
P.S. I'm a QPR fan tommorrow evening, Thursday evening Rotherham and Coventry can draw and I will be happy, but either one wins and one or both will still be below us.

They call it the "Champions League" which is strange, because teams enter this competition having finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th. When the Rams played in its old name "European Cup", we were the Champions of England.

They call it the "Champions League" which is strange, because teams enter this competition having finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th. When the Rams played in its old name "European Cup", we were the Champions of England.

Odds get adjusted as the season progresses. Yes Liverpool were made favourites at the begining of this season but they adjust the odds, so the bookies don't make a loss. The season Leicester won the title (2015/16), they were not the favourites at the begining of the season to go down, Bournemouth were. You might be getting confused with the fact, one bookies had them 5000/1 to win the title. They only lost 3 games all season and as games went by, their odds were slashed.
As for Rotherham can score goals, yes they can and do better than most of the teams down in the bottom end of the table. But they also concede, only SIX teams in the entire Championship have conceded more. And when you consider Rotherham have leaked 51 goals in 37 games, the other six have played 3 or 4 games more to have leaked more. To save you looking its Wycombe Conceded 64, Sheff Wed 52, Coventry 56, Hudderfield 60, Preston 55 and Bristol 55 (all in bottom half of the table).
P.S. I'm a QPR fan tommorrow evening, Thursday evening Rotherham and Coventry can draw and I will be happy, but either one wins and one or both will still be below us.

Odds are drawn up before punters put money on the games, yes they will be adjusted if people start betting heavily on one of the teams. All major bookies have experts who work out the initial odds, smaller or independent bookies will follow the odds of the bigger companies. Bookies will not get it wrong on a regular basis, they would all be bankrupt. "Odds don't mean much" is a bit of a throw away statement.
As for Great escape, Rotherham have been down in the bottom 6 most of the season. They have one of the smallest squads in the Championship and have a massive 9 games to play in 26 days. If they pulled it off, trust me they would be plauded by the football media.

Why wait till 2025, lets get a pre season friendly arranged in the summer
AND SMASH THEM

Is that Neal Warnock's dog outside Pride Park

You might be predicting Rotherham to stay up, but the bookies have a different opinion. Bookies don't get fleeced very often, they have Wycombe favourites for relegation followed by Sheff Wed then Rotherham. Coventry being the next on the list. Information from "Oddschecker. com" under Championship Relegation. It shows all the major betting companies odds against the teams. Derby are 4 to 1 to go down.

9 matches in 26 days, it would be the greatest escape of all time to pull it off. I would fear Sheff Weds more than Rotherham if we kept on losing, even they would have to win their game in hand and gain 5 points on us to catch us.

Rotherham are not playing on the day of the Funeral, because they have a game Tuesday (QPR), then Thursday (Coventry). Their weekend game is Sunday (Birmingham), Then another game on the Wednesday (M'Boro) followed by Saturday 24th (Barnsley) and again Tuesday 27th (Brentford). Thats 6 matches in 14 days and when they have finished with their April fixtures they will only have the one game in hand over the rest of teams down the bottom of the table. Their games in May are Saturday 1st (Blackburn), Tues 4th (Luton) and last game Saturday 8th (Cardiff). Meaning they have 9 matches in 26 days!

Don’t get all this hand wringing over home and away. Our form is patchy, we need two good performances. As likely to happen home or away, pretty much,  and I don’t give a monkeys which it is. I think we’ll do it. 

They have the worst home record because they currently have the fewest points at home and the fewest points per game as well.

Isnt it this current crop of players that showed all of the above to help us get off bottom to a position where wr are 7pts clear with 5 games to go?

I don't think it matters how many home games you have, there is no fans in the stadiums. The next 7 days holds the key to where the Rams might be. Looking at the current table, the bottom 7 teams are trying to avoid the drop. I could be wrong, but Blackburn and above look safe to me. On Tuesday Sheff Wed play their game in hand over us, which is home to Swansea (They need to win it to close the gap to 5pts on us). The same night Huddersfield play Bournemouth, thats their game in hand over us. Rotherham play QPR, who just spanked Wednesday. Then on Thursday, Rotherham play another of their games in hand against Coventry (draw would be the best result for us). That game will be Coventry's game in hand over us.
So we go into next weekends fixtures with Birmingham, Derby, Huddersfield, Coventry, Sheff Wed and Wycombe all having played 41 league games. Rotherham will have only 2 games in hand, so the picture will become clearer. The weekend fixture are; Swansea v Wycombe, Sheff Wed v Bristol, Rotherham v Birmingham, Forest V Huddersfield, Coventry v Barnsley and Blackburn V Rams.
I would like to point out some factors, 4 of the bottom 7 would have played a mid-week game (Rotherham would have played 2). Only Wycombe, Birmingham and the Rams will have a longer recovery time. Some are up against teams still chasing promotion, some are playing each other in the relegation battle over the next 7 days. Some fans are worried about Rotherham (the only team in the bottom 7 with a better goal diff than us). IF, they manage to win their next 3 games against QPR, Coventry and Birmingham, that would mean 2 of them teams would be still in the mix with them and us. Then Rotherham have a midweek match against M'Boro followed by Barnsley and Brentford who all happen to be in the current top 10 of the table. Rotherham's record against the current top 10 is just one win.
I will stick with my predictions of Wycombe, Sheff wed, and Rothertham getting relegated. Even with Wednesday's 6 point deduction at the begining of the season would still put them in a relegation position if it was rescinded.

When there's less than 6 games left to play, I don't think you can take home form into the battle of survival. Its all about who you still have to play, Whether it be teams around you or teams at the top still chasing promotion, or even teams in the middle of the table.  Sheff Wed have only 18 points to win and have an 8 point gap to close on us, plus the goal diff. Barring the Swansea game, most of their matches could be winnable but they have not much better form than Derby in their last 5 games. Rotherham have a 7 point gap to close on the Rams but have Coventry and Birmingham also fighting for survival and they still have 4 teams to play from the top 10 of  the table, where they have only registered one win all season.

I don't think it matters how many home games you have, there is no fans in the stadiums. The next 7 days holds the key to where the Rams might be. Looking at the current table, the bottom 7 teams are trying to avoid the drop. I could be wrong, but Blackburn and above look safe to me. On Tuesday Sheff Wed play their game in hand over us, which is home to Swansea (They need to win it to close the gap to 5pts on us). The same night Huddersfield play Bournemouth, thats their game in hand over us. Rotherham play QPR, who just spanked Wednesday. Then on Thursday, Rotherham play another of their games in hand against Coventry (draw would be the best result for us). That game will be Coventry's game in hand over us.
So we go into next weekends fixtures with Birmingham, Derby, Huddersfield, Coventry, Sheff Wed and Wycombe all having played 41 league games. Rotherham will have only 2 games in hand, so the picture will become clearer. The weekend fixture are; Swansea v Wycombe, Sheff Wed v Bristol, Rotherham v Birmingham, Forest V Huddersfield, Coventry v Barnsley and Blackburn V Rams.
I would like to point out some factors, 4 of the bottom 7 would have played a mid-week game (Rotherham would have played 2). Only Wycombe, Birmingham and the Rams will have a longer recovery time. Some are up against teams still chasing promotion, some are playing each other in the relegation battle over the next 7 days. Some fans are worried about Rotherham (the only team in the bottom 7 with a better goal diff than us). IF, they manage to win their next 3 games against QPR, Coventry and Birmingham, that would mean 2 of them teams would be still in the mix with them and us. Then Rotherham have a midweek match against M'Boro followed by Barnsley and Brentford who all happen to be in the current top 10 of the table. Rotherham's record against the current top 10 is just one win.
I will stick with my predictions of Wycombe, Sheff wed, and Rothertham getting relegated. Even with Wednesday's 6 point deduction at the begining of the season would still put them in a relegation position if it was rescinded.

I don't think it matters how many home games you have, there is no fans in the stadiums. The next 7 days holds the key to where the Rams might be. Looking at the current table, the bottom 7 teams are trying to avoid the drop. I could be wrong, but Blackburn and above look safe to me. On Tuesday Sheff Wed play their game in hand over us, which is home to Swansea (They need to win it to close the gap to 5pts on us). The same night Huddersfield play Bournemouth, thats their game in hand over us. Rotherham play QPR, who just spanked Wednesday. Then on Thursday, Rotherham play another of their games in hand against Coventry (draw would be the best result for us). That game will be Coventry's game in hand over us.
So we go into next weekends fixtures with Birmingham, Derby, Huddersfield, Coventry, Sheff Wed and Wycombe all having played 41 league games. Rotherham will have only 2 games in hand, so the picture will become clearer. The weekend fixture are; Swansea v Wycombe, Sheff Wed v Bristol, Rotherham v Birmingham, Forest V Huddersfield, Coventry v Barnsley and Blackburn V Rams.
I would like to point out some factors, 4 of the bottom 7 would have played a mid-week game (Rotherham would have played 2). Only Wycombe, Birmingham and the Rams will have a longer recovery time. Some are up against teams still chasing promotion, some are playing each other in the relegation battle over the next 7 days. Some fans are worried about Rotherham (the only team in the bottom 7 with a better goal diff than us). IF, they manage to win their next 3 games against QPR, Coventry and Birmingham, that would mean 2 of them teams would be still in the mix with them and us. Then Rotherham have a midweek match against M'Boro followed by Barnsley and Brentford who all happen to be in the current top 10 of the table. Rotherham's record against the current top 10 is just one win.
I will stick with my predictions of Wycombe, Sheff wed, and Rothertham getting relegated. Even with Wednesday's 6 point deduction at the begining of the season would still put them in a relegation position if it was rescinded.

You are right I did get my Maths wrong, If that did work out we would be playing Sheff Weds on the last game of the season both sitting on the same points(who would have the better goal diff is not so easy to predict). Personally I don't think we will going into that May 8th fixture with the worry of having to win it, to stay in the championship.

You are right I did get my Maths wrong, If that did work out we would be playing Sheff Weds on the last game of the season both sitting on the same points(who would have the better goal diff is not so easy to predict). Personally I don't think we will going into that May 8th fixture with the worry of having to win it, to stay in the championship.

Hobnob anyone ?

So Rotherham who have won 2 and lost 8 in their last 10 matches are suddenly going to hit some form. They have managed to lose 21 games in only 36 matches, only Wycombe have lost more, that being 23 and they've done that over 40 games. Rotherham, with one of the smallest squads in the Championship have 10 matches to play in 28 days (Thats going to take it's toll). Likewise Sheff Weds have lost 7 drawn 1 and won just 2 in their last 10 games (they also would need to find some form). How you come to the conculsion that Hudderfield, Coventry and Birmingham are on par with us. All three have worse goal differences and two have a point less.
Compare our last 10 matches, we have lost 5, drawn 3 and won 2 (thats more points gained than Rotherham & Weds in the last 10 games). Currently, its points in the bag, having a better goal diff and less than a month the season is over.  If Rotherham perform the miracle and win 2, draw 2 of their games in hand, then also better Derby in their other games. Please come back on here and remind me and state you told me so. I'm sticking with Wycombe, Rotherham and Sheff Weds to be relegated.