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2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

Is Hayden Roberts injured. I think he would be a great option for that left centre back in a three.

I’d drop Max Bird. It just isn’t working out for him right now.

Hopefully Sibley gets a start. Unless he has been injured, I don’t know why he has been the one to drop out.

Yeah I’d be fine with roberts there, move Cashin to the middle of the three?

2 hours ago, David said:

Wildsmith

Chester   Davies   Cashin

Bird

Mendez-Laing   Knight   Hourihane   Barkhuizen

McGoldrick   Dobbin

 

If smith is fit would have him in for bird.

5 hours ago, kevinhectoring said:

He’s becoming a fabulous footballer but he’s virtually a schoolboy and needs to focus on his improvement - don’t burden him with leadership roles 

It’s not a burden to the right person. Bellingham is captaining Dortmund at 19 and still constantly improving. 

26 minutes ago, Rammy03 said:

I think we will be better with a back 4. We don't really have the players for a back 5. Barkheuizen and Mendez Laing are natural wide players but they're no wingbacks

It doesn’t make us look any safer at the back either.

Unrelated but think cashin should be vice captain. Looks a leader to me, drives the team forward when behind. Even from centre back. Would be very happy with him having the armband from Davies at the end of the season. Easily our best defender now.

4 hours ago, Rampant said:

That was fun yesterday. Two penalties conceded, a red card and a home defeat to the club who came up last season via the L2 playoffs. 

The performance of the ref and his assistants is the talk of the forum but my overall take is this.....

 

1. We didn't deserve to win the game and our performance should be of greater concern than that of the officials.

2. The key decisions - the two pens plus Collins' red - weren't awful decisions. Collins didn't aim for their player but he lashed out and if he's caught him then the ref is always likely to send him off.

3. Sibley was hauled down at the end but the ref gave it as a free kick to them rather than a penalty (or waving play on). As it happens, I'm pretty sure he blew before the corner had actually been taken so he got that incident doubly wrong.

4. Whatever the merits or otherwise are of having three CB's and playing with wingbacks, I'm already of the opinion that neither Barkhuizen or Mendez-Laing are suitable for the role. Festy or Byrne as RWB and Lowe or Buchanan as LWB yes, but I've spotted a problem with that.

NML seemed to lack his explosive pace yesterday and I think asking him to cover more distance is a likely cause. I like both Barks and NML but only as wide attacking players or possibly conventional wingers in a 4-4-2, not as wing backs.

5. We had a midfield three yesterday of Bird, Hourihane and Knight. That trio should be more than good enough to dominate most matches at L1 level. I felt yesterday that they were off it individually and as a trio. I also felt we didn't try to play enough football through them. They have quality, it is potentially our strong suit yet we play as though it isn't.

If we play with three in the middle I'd like to see Rooney given an opportunity to nail the DM role. He looks to be a fine prospect. Knight's energy plus whoever compliments the team best - or most in form - out of Bird, Hourihane, Smith, Thompson and Sibley can take the remaining place (Smith looked excellent in his most recent appearance). 

6. At this level we should have enough ability to play four at the back and use the third CB body elsewhere. If this means Odurah, Smith or Chester at RB then so be it. 

7. Yesterday was the first time I've watched a match from the North Stand since circa 1997 (a 3-1 win versus Everton). You boys and girls in the South Stand looked great doing the bounce after the goal.

8. Osula doesn't look equipped to play up front as a sole striker.

 

COYR

 

We look very much like a team with a lot of square pegs in round holes. 
 

I’m not convinced on five at the back either, if we insist on playing that I’m not sure where else barkhuizen or Mendez Laing can play for us.

think dobbin looks good as a striker in a two. Bird needs a few games out for me. He looks so off it physically lately. Smith, knight and hourihane should be the midfield next week.

Think is possibly fa cup first and second rounds which could be home games in that time.

at least the World Cup is on at the same time!

2 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

Looks like a 3142 like what he has recently played at Rotherham.

Wildsmith - Chester Davies Cashin - Bird - NML Knight Hourihane Barkhuizen - Collins Dobbin

Asking a lot of your wide players there aren’t you. Be interesting the next few weeks.

9 minutes ago, sage said:

               Wildsmith

Knight Davies Cashin Chester

NML   Bird Hourihane    Barkhuizen

             Collins. Dobbin

 

 

 

Think will be knight right wing back and barkhuizen left.

then bird and hourihane midfield

nml, Collins, dobbin front three

not into knight playing there but someone has to I guess until january

2 minutes ago, LittleEatonRam said:

Really don't understand the meltdown going on here. From the tone you'd think we'd just sacked Brian Clough rather than choosing not to make permanent an interim manager who has done an OK job.

Yeah, and we’ve decided our players are not suited to any other style than roseniors.

only cashin of our centre backs is decent with the ball, rest are pretty traditional defenders. Same with Roberts and fozzy.

midfield wise, bird and hourihane are quite pretty footballers. Maybe only one of them plays. That’s what all fans had seemed to want anyway lately. Knight and smith seem high energy and neat footballers.

Wingers, barkhuizen and nml are all pace and direct. Think warne would love them. Dobbin an option to freshen it up.

sibley needs to find a position, has had long enough to do it. Maybe a 10 or second striker.

mcgoldrick and Collins be fine as well. Osula is huge so can play more direct.

of the whole squad I’d think bird and sibley the ones who perhaps will have to adapt the most. And not sure that’s a bad thing, for them and us.

Not against this to be honest. Really didn’t see the way we play away being enough to get us promoted this or any season. It’s too pretty but toothless at the same time.

feel for a new manager having no right back until January.

think it may improve some of our players, bird for example needs to find a way to toughen up and get involved in games more. Will be interesting.

21 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Forsyth and Roberts for LWB.

Oduroh and Knight for RWB.

Mendez-Laing and Barkhuizen for either RWB or LWB.

Not sure fozzy has wing back in him nowadays, roberts didn’t look very convincing today.

oduroh doesn’t seem an option, knight we’re desperately trying to get into midfield

and like both of the wingers, not sure I want to be asking them to defend. 

Got there in the end with knight, first half was a bit square pegs in round holes for me. Not sure where sibley and knight were playing.

mcgoldrick was a lot better deeper, midfield looked loads better with knight and hourihane.

like barkhuizen and nml, not sure you can play them at wing back for whole games though.

decent performance though and a well deserved win!

Not convinced by 352, we don’t really have any wing backs at the club.

1 hour ago, PistoldPete said:

So no full backs at all then? 

It’s ok, 35 year old Chester can cover the whole of the left side when barkhuizen attacks

Just now, MACKWORTHRAM said:

THIS.

3 wins in 36 away games.

And at no point in any of them as he said, maybe we should approach these in a different way.

No, we'll just keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results 

You’d hope just parking the bus and countering you’d get more points than this wouldn’t you. It’s not working whatever we’re doing.

8 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

I take your point mate but I honestly don't think we really have played good stuff.

First half at Charlton was good, ended up losing cos the second half was abysmal.

First half against Barnsley was good. 

Last 20 against Oxford were OK.

Shrewsbury and Fleetwood very similar.

Peterborough we got out of jail against 10 men.

Tonight was pitiful.

I've never been sold on Rosenior, going back to the time him and Rooney were joint until Rooney took it full time. He talks a good game and it's like he's been media trained to within an inch of his life. He says things that he believes we want to hear, but the never ever backs up what he says.

Praises Oduroh and Rooney in the cup games they've played, says he's not afraid to throw players in, says nobody, not even players like Hourihane are guaranteed a start.

Not one single person would have moaned tonight if he'd have started Oduroh and moved Knight into midfield, infact, I'd argue most would have been very happy with it. I doubt many would have moaned if Rooney had come in for Bird.

I came out of Plymouth hoping that it was a blessing in disguise and that it had shown us up and maybe we needed that kick up the backside.

Rosenior has mentioned how good it's been having all this time on the training ground to work and then they go out and put out a performance like that?

I genuinely wanted things to work for him, because he seems like a really nice bloke. I've kept quiet with my reservations about him because I wanted to see him do well. But there is nothing here to suggest to me we'll be anywhere near the top 6.

Only one team have scored less goals than us and to get 2 points and score 0 goals from Charlton, Shrewsbury, Fleetwood and Lincoln away is unforgivable.

If anything the performances have been getting worse.

Teams have found out exactly how to stop us and Rosenior hasn't got the first clue how to change it.

Let's not forget that Rosenior was a massive part on the coaching field (By Rooney's admission he left Rosenior to the coaching) in which we won 3 out of 23 away games.

Well now it's 3 out of 27.

Not good enough.

Clearly Clowes isn't sold on him either. Otherwise he would be in charge by now.

Just looked and we didn’t win any of the last 9 away the seasons before either. So 3 wins in 36 over almost two years.

Wildsmith 6 did nothing wrong 

roberts 3 really poor, fozzy a much better option

davies 4 one of his worst games for us, probably rusty after a while out

cashin 4 poor and at fault for the second

knight 5 worst game of the season, kept going at least. Penalty was poor

Bird 4 achieving nothing this season

hourihane 4 same as bird, midfield needs changing

sibley 2 terrible

dobbin 6 at least looked interested

nml 5 worst game, still could have been involved in a couple of goals

Collins 5 needs to get involved in the game more

Subs

barkhuizen 5 should’ve scored at least one

Mcgoldrick 5 did little

osula 2, did he touch the ball?

I’m starting to think a different manager may get more out of these players. It’s just Groundhog Day away, all the ball and achieve nothing. Rosenior doesn’t have a plan b or seem concerned by it.

Not sure anyone played well tonight, midfield was really poor. Knight really needs moving into midfield. Rosenior obviously doesn’t fancy our other option there though.

Osula I don’t think has had a good touch yet in about 40 minutes on the pitch 

6 hours ago, Edtheram said:

Probably going to annoy a lot of forum members here but Max Bird is no captain the guy doesn’t talk. Him and hourihane in midfield were a joke neither can make a tackle. Thompson is also a league standard below this one, he was awful when he came on. Poor subs cost us this one at 2-0 up. Plymouth by far the better team though.

It was really weak in midfield wasn’t it, like bird but some days is hard to see what he achieves. Can be far too safe with his passing too. Him and hourihane have no physicality at all. Or legs to break from midfield either.

Agree on Thompson too.

15 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said:

I agree

but isnt sibley a direct replacement for didsy? So why shove him out wide

when u have dobbin whos shown he can operate out wide sat on the bench?

we lost our pace and subsequently they could play 30 yards higher up the pitch which killed us

think liam owns this one

Thompson naturally drops deeper and deeper too, we were suddenly penned in our own half. Change of shape did not work at all. 
 

Midfield was really poor all day, bird, hourihane and Thompson.

12 minutes ago, LeedsCityRam said:

Got my Morecambe & Lincoln tickets but only by constantly refreshing the site after finding to my horror all tickets had been sold just after 10am. Fortunately a couple more turned up a few mins later & I jumped on them. Our away support is pretty rabid at the minute, feel sorry for the poor sods waiting for them to hit general sale.

Up to 3 away trips now, only 2 more to get into an earlier category for next season (sure Hillsborough & Oakwell should be a breeze to get tickets for as a minimum)

E I E I E IO UP THE AWAY TICKETS PREFERENTIAL BUYING WINDOW WE GO

Yeah it’s weird!! In the past an away membership was pretty much only to guarantee you a forest ticket. Feels almost essential now. Was convinced I’d get tickets for at least one of these! Great support though. 

Mk dons, Barnsley and a few others should be able to get tickets for hopefully!

How about Lincoln? Might get to go to both!! 

I was really underwhelmed with him two years ago. Just looked the definition of average to me.

Feels the more likely one! Would be happy with that

21 minutes ago, Foreveram said:

Morecambe over 1,200 left 

Lincoln over 1,600 left.

Am getting optimistic one of these might make general sale!!