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Derby have already offered him a professional contract for when he turns 17 which means that if a club comes in now then we can demand a transfer fee.

No clubs publicise internal discussions. Why should they? It's where issues get thrashed out. This is a rebuild of the whole club and a work in progress. It's the end product that matters. If anyone involved can't buy into it, there's always someone waiting in the wings. The head coach is directly accountable to the owner, not the fans. Thank goodness.
 

Really likeable lad who has been with us forever. I do hope he stays, though it's very hard to blame the lads or their parents if big money deals are being touted. I do get frustrated by these moves though, as while I accept that the current rules attempt to prevent youngsters being horse traded, many are just farmed straight out to the selling club's competitors anyway and any and all returns (or the lion's share) just go straight to the buying club, not the club that brought the player through.
Equally, I do wish more of these youngers would hang about at the clubs that nurtured them for long enough for said clubs to reap some significant benefit, in the Bellingham mode. I appreciate though that that's probably naive and I do wonder what call I'd make were it me being lured away at such a young age.

I was bored to tears last week with the lack of football to watch and except for the two England games there was hardly anything of much interest on TV. Now, I've been to the game yesterday, I'm going to the Youth Cup game at Bolton tomorrow and then Port Vale on Tuesday. My wife asked me if I've got a day off this week and I had a slip of the tongue and said Wednesday . I've just realised the U21 have a Derbyshire Cup game on Wednesday at Staveley MW.....Oops. That one is going to have to hit my pocket....... quick trip to the florists for a bouquet in the morning and that should fix it. She loves her flowers as much as I love the Rams and my wife of course. I think the job's a good 'un. 😉😂🐏🐏.

No clubs publicise internal discussions. Why should they? It's where issues get thrashed out. This is a rebuild of the whole club and a work in progress. It's the end product that matters. If anyone involved can't buy into it, there's always someone waiting in the wings. The head coach is directly accountable to the owner, not the fans. Thank goodness.
 

Not worrying about this. It's almost the identical story to when Jack Thompson was offered his contract. Then it was Chelsea, City and Spurs; always top six clubs that are suddenly interested. Agents feeding desperate  journalists a story knowing they'll print it and it gives publicity for the client. I think the need for a pathway is recognised within the club and it will be defined. That's how Hale worked at Southampton. He and Fleming and the other academy coaches have not come here to be messed about. The academy as a resource is vital to the club and we simply have to make best use of it. I'm sure Warne will come to realise that very soon if he doesn't already.

I was bored to tears last week with the lack of football to watch and except for the two England games there was hardly anything of much interest on TV. Now, I've been to the game yesterday, I'm going to the Youth Cup game at Bolton tomorrow and then Port Vale on Tuesday. My wife asked me if I've got a day off this week and I had a slip of the tongue and said Wednesday . I've just realised the U21 have a Derbyshire Cup game on Wednesday at Staveley MW.....Oops. That one is going to have to hit my pocket....... quick trip to the florists for a bouquet in the morning and that should fix it. She loves her flowers as much as I love the Rams and my wife of course. I think the job's a good 'un. 😉😂🐏🐏.

No clubs publicise internal discussions. Why should they? It's where issues get thrashed out. This is a rebuild of the whole club and a work in progress. It's the end product that matters. If anyone involved can't buy into it, there's always someone waiting in the wings. The head coach is directly accountable to the owner, not the fans. Thank goodness.
 

Danny Maye's preview of the 2nd round FA Youth Cup tie away to Bolton Wanderers at the Toughsheet Community Stadium tomorrow night.
https://fb.watch/oz9FjLssut/
Let's hope it's Toughsheet for the Trotters and not the Young Rams 🐏🐏🐏.
 
 
 

No clubs publicise internal discussions. Why should they? It's where issues get thrashed out. This is a rebuild of the whole club and a work in progress. It's the end product that matters. If anyone involved can't buy into it, there's always someone waiting in the wings. The head coach is directly accountable to the owner, not the fans. Thank goodness.
 

Not worrying about this. It's almost the identical story to when Jack Thompson was offered his contract. Then it was Chelsea, City and Spurs; always top six clubs that are suddenly interested. Agents feeding desperate  journalists a story knowing they'll print it and it gives publicity for the client. I think the need for a pathway is recognised within the club and it will be defined. That's how Hale worked at Southampton. He and Fleming and the other academy coaches have not come here to be messed about. The academy as a resource is vital to the club and we simply have to make best use of it. I'm sure Warne will come to realise that very soon if he doesn't already.

Danny Maye's preview of the 2nd round FA Youth Cup tie away to Bolton Wanderers at the Toughsheet Community Stadium tomorrow night.
https://fb.watch/oz9FjLssut/
Let's hope it's Toughsheet for the Trotters and not the Young Rams 🐏🐏🐏.
 
 
 

Not worrying about this. It's almost the identical story to when Jack Thompson was offered his contract. Then it was Chelsea, City and Spurs; always top six clubs that are suddenly interested. Agents feeding desperate  journalists a story knowing they'll print it and it gives publicity for the client. I think the need for a pathway is recognised within the club and it will be defined. That's how Hale worked at Southampton. He and Fleming and the other academy coaches have not come here to be messed about. The academy as a resource is vital to the club and we simply have to make best use of it. I'm sure Warne will come to realise that very soon if he doesn't already.

Danny Maye's preview of the 2nd round FA Youth Cup tie away to Bolton Wanderers at the Toughsheet Community Stadium tomorrow night.
https://fb.watch/oz9FjLssut/
Let's hope it's Toughsheet for the Trotters and not the Young Rams 🐏🐏🐏.
 
 
 

Derby have already offered him a professional contract for when he turns 17 which means that if a club comes in now then we can demand a transfer fee.

Danny Maye's preview of the 2nd round FA Youth Cup tie away to Bolton Wanderers at the Toughsheet Community Stadium tomorrow night.
https://fb.watch/oz9FjLssut/
Let's hope it's Toughsheet for the Trotters and not the Young Rams 🐏🐏🐏.
 
 
 

Derby have already offered him a professional contract for when he turns 17 which means that if a club comes in now then we can demand a transfer fee.

I’m afraid not - it’s been many years since I sported hair of a similar length to the late, great Mr Zappa (didn’t stop one poster from sending me a PM calling me a ‘long haired nonce’ after i suggested in a post that he needed to chill for his own wellbeing though! 🤣)

Have you listened to the recent interview with Matt Hale about the academy and the direction there? There is clearly an intention from the club to invest in and rebuild the academy, it may just take more time than some are willing to give it. 
So many people seem hung up on Warne being this barrier to the long term success of the club, he will either serve a purpose in the club moving forward, or he won’t and he’ll be gone. It’s clear to me from what I’ve read and heard from the club beyond just Paul Warne being the first team manager that infrastructure is being put in place that will benefit us in time, either with players able to join the first team squad or for selling on. There isn’t any “sitting around and twiddling thumbs”

Yes, I think it's more that we are entitled to compensation but like the others there's a good chance we can negotiate a better fee if more than one club is after him. I'd still like to see kids like this stay and play for Derby, but understand that at L1 level it's harder to say no. 
Whilst I think it's hard for a manager to give really young players a chance when half the fanbase MLF when we don't play teams off the park, if there's genuine interest from other clubs its in DCFC interest to involve them with the 1st team squad. That's something for the owner to offer assurance to the manager about.

If it wasn't for the fact this was quelled in the past day or so, it'd be rendered irrelevant.
I'm all for romance, and It was a nice emotionally charged idea at the time, but given the timescale involved to reach this decision, the right decision was made.

Rooney himself reputedly... and fairly... responded thus:
 "The Freedom of Derby? Was I meant to get the Freedom of Derby?” said Rooney. 
“I had a great time at Derby under difficult circumstances. I never expected to get the freedom of the place. I respect the football club, I respect the fans, but there are a lot more people who deserve the Freedom of Derby more than I do.”
Too true, Wayne.
Cheers, 'n all that.  👍

I do not believe that Warne is deliberately and wantonly defying the owner at all. I posted yesterday that I think that Warne is proving to be a one-tricky pony who knows only one way of playing and with those methods he achieved promotion three times with Rotherham (followed notably by two relegations from the Championship). He has not previously managed a club with a Category One academy where the EPPP programme is adopted and the first team play a style of football in line with that taught in the academy. Derby still adopt EPPP as do all PL2 academy teams. We now are the only PL2 club whose first team does not play a style which reflects EPPP; that causes a problem for academy players stepping up and we are failing those youngsters in who we have invested so much. I think simply that Warne's methods are extremely limited and he knows no other way, which makes him a poor fit for Derby County. It's not his fault, he simply knows no better. The academy coaches are good but Warne is not the right coach to further the development of the academy graduates. Other clubs have appointed younger coaches with long experience of academy coaching as head coaches and they are way ahead of Warne; Kieran McKenna has been at Ipswich less than two years and has turned them around from mid-table in Division One to a side on the brink realistically of promotion to the Premier League. There are many other similar examples of coaches outperforming Warne.
If you doubt that the rebuilding of the academy was part of David Clowes' intentions and he might not have told that to Paul Warne I simply cannot help you and you will have to take that up with the owner. I find him candid and honest about what he has said about his intentions for the club. Are you confusing him with his predecessor ? I hope not. I have not been privy to any of his conversations. I simply trust his public statements backed by the clear support and investment in the academy.
I don't get the misunderstanding about the competitive budget which David Clowes said we had. Is it not competitive? Paul Warne said he had chosen to spend not on transfer fees but on wages which allowed him to bring in more players. I don't find that confusing; it was Paul Warne's choice on he spent the competitive budget.
Yes, with what I have witnessed in the past year, I now think that Liam Rosenior would have been the logical appointment. For all I know, the owner may or may not be thinking the same thing. Hindsight is a benefit available to none of us at he time of making crucial decisions. I don't do guessing so I can't help you there.

I don't know how much academy football you watch. I have been watching it for eight years whenever the first team aren't playing. This is the first time I have been worried that we are not making the best use of the potential resources. I know that other regular academy attendees who post on here and others who follow it on Rams TV, share the same concerns.

Erm, no - Warne doesn't care about the academy so until that changes I'll keep saying it. I'm sorry. 

Bucko comes across really well on the interview I think. Full of passion, realism, common sense and knowledge. He proved as a player that he had the character and grit to make the maximum use of his own abilities and he probably reached the maximum potential he could possibly achieve before he retired. I think our young players are in good hands while he is around. He seems to have a patriarchal air about him and seems set on bringing those he thinks are ready to the attention of the head coach. I hope Warne knows that he's dealing with a no-nonsense football genius 😆. COYR.