RotherhamRam Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I'm not sure if I am the only one feeling like this. I am really getting fed up with comments made against Clough and Board in respect of Shackell rumours especially. Also about the club looking at selling best players as mentioned on other threads. We have had our best season in 5 year last year. All the comments coming from Clough and the board is not that we need to sell players, we have improved and will attempt to improve the squad ready for next year. There are 20 pages of comments re Shackell and that he will be sold for £1million, £1.25 million, £1.5 million because that is daft money - is it really daft money ask yourself whether this is really silly money. We paid £900k for him last year did we pay daft money for him I would say not so we aint going to sell him for only a couple more hundred thousand then are we. People moaning that Derby selling our best players ready for next season. Wheres the evidence. Green left of a free to dirty Leeds as wanted to leave although contract offered. Maguire can not fall into this bracket Addison and Croft up for sale Savies transfer request due to family concerns HOW DOES THIS EQUATE TO US BEING A SELLING CLUB. Shackell comments from club states that silly money is the only reason we would part with him. £2million is not silly money. We have no intention of selling and if so he would have been gone by now. I am really fed up of the negativity being thrown at Clough and Board when there is no evidence to suggest that anything will happen. Sorry moan over. Expect to be shot down but really don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I feel for you mate. The thing is I have become more pessimistic over the last two seasons regarding our club's future while reading posts on this site. It seems that there are two sides here and what ever happens half of the people will be unhappy unless we on some rare occasion unite and be unhappy together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Personally I'll wait for something to happen, and then I'll decide. At the minute it's just talk. No point getting negative until something happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobDcfc Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Agree mate. In all fairness, every team minus the top 6 in the prem are selling clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Agree mate. In all fairness, every team minus the top 6 in the prem are selling clubs. Ronaldo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobDcfc Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Ronaldo? Fair enough, Ronaldo did push the move. Odd players here and there but mainly not much unless the club wants rid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Fair enough, Ronaldo did push the move. Odd players here and there but mainly not much unless the club wants rid I agree with you, but I think all British clubs are selling clubs, if the price is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Any club is a selling club for the right price, if even Man City or Real Madrid were offered £1billion for a player, than obviously they would sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I agree with you, but I think all British clubs are selling clubs, if the price is right. Corrected it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 If we do sell a player that us fan want to keep, an undisclosed fee will just wind us up even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Stop being negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 How do you know that the club don't deem 2 million silly money RR? Have they stated silly money in quotes or has it been if the offer is good enough to improve other areas then we may well sell him. Add to your list Bailey as well. If people are worried about the shackell situation then they have a right to state it RR. If you are annoyed by the moaning simply do not go on that thread, don't make another thread to moan about the moaners because all you're doing now is moaning. With many things it is perception that matters and not cold hard reality, the perception is that with the possibility of two of our best players leaving in shackell and sdavies that this puts us in the bracket of a selling club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Cheer up Rotherham. If a ‘selling club’ is a club that has to sell players for wider financial reasons, such as to pay the rent or pay the next tax bill, then we’re not a selling club. We’re more a ‘break even club’. So if Clough wants to improve the squad (he does) and if there’s no new investment from the owners to do that (there won’t be) then Clough has to make some very difficult decisions about how much he’s prepared to accept from the sale of his better players (he has no choice). The articles in DET suggest to me that Shackell will be sold if an offer comes in that matches the minimum amount Clough thinks he needs to significantly improve the squad. The more Clough can get the better but, imo, that minimum amount could be around £1.5M-£2M. Not sure if that makes me negative or not. /Of course, Clough also has to balance all this while making sure he doesn’t increase the overall wage bill…but now I’m just trying to make you as fed up as I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Cheer up Rotherham. If a ‘selling club’ is a club that has to sell players for wider financial reasons, such as to pay the rent or pay the next tax bill, then we’re not a selling club. We’re more a ‘break even club’. So if Clough wants to improve the squad (he does) and if there’s no new investment from the owners to do that (there won’t be) then Clough has to make some very difficult decisions about how much he’s prepared to accept from the sale of his better players (he has no choice). The articles in DET suggest to me that Shackell will be sold if an offer comes in that matches the minimum amount Clough thinks he needs to significantly improve the squad. The more Clough can get the better but, imo, that minimum amount could be around £1.5M-£2M. Not sure if that makes me negative or not. /Of course, Clough also has to balance all this while making sure he doesn’t increase the overall wage bill…but now I’m just trying to make you as fed up as I am. BOOO.... what you're saying is far too sensible 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> CLOUGH... . .IN [OR OUT] SHACKELL.... .HERE [OR THERE] MAGUIRE ..... GOOD [OR BAD] So many different views from so many experts. Don't bother with the ones you don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggy Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Who's the one who said he might sell Shackell. Clough ! Exactly that's where all the negativity has come from! Clough shoud be saying what Glick said now I wonder how Shackell himself feels about this farce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Exactly that's where all the negativity has come from! Clough shoud be saying what Glick said now I wonder how Shackell himself feels about this farce I actually think that Clough's "honesty" has caused much of this. He does not promote an ambitious feeling for the club. All it has created is uncertainty for the summer. Not every fan has time to fully understand the entire situation. Fans can only react to what the club and Clough put out there. The majority of this so-called negativity towards Derby has been created by themselves. I am not fed up with the comments, I am fed up with the club making me feel it lacks ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Threads commenting on the comments of fans on comments from the club. You know when it's pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 i'll tell you what...if things don't change... they'll stop as they are.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I used to be apathetic about all this, now I couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Take the Villa for example (please, take the Villa) Every week they used to criticise Martin's decisions to include a player, or to leave him out, 442 or 451. Everyone seemed to know better than him on the phone ins and papers criticised his tactics. Not being keen on the Villa I am a fan of Martin O 'Neill as a great manager. The so called experts were surprised when Martin walked out on the club. I wasn't. BTW I also admire our Nige. Let's just trust him to get on with his job eh? Both managers were slightly influenced by the great man, Nigel's dad. Remember 1973. (or look it up if you're too young.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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